EPTAlso you were talking about "far more damage in the midgame", which I take to be not only referring to laneing (or you have a very strange notion of 'midgame'). And that was simply untrue.
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
Also you were talking about "far more damage in the midgame", which I take to be not only referring to laneing (or you have a very strange notion of 'midgame'). And that was simply untrue. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Quick math seems to indicate that Velkoz does way more damage than Zyra, both DPS and burst. Not really surprising since Zyra's CC is much better and Velkoz has a damage passive. | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
On November 02 2014 07:52 Ketara wrote: Should settle this dispute with numbers like real nerds. Quick math seems to indicate that Velkoz does way more damage than Zyra, both DPS and burst. Not really surprising since Zyra's CC is much better and Velkoz has a damage passive. Claiming that "quick math indicates x" without presenting the math is not exactly useful. In fact it looks just fishy because it is a cop-out against people disagreeing with the assumptions build into your calculations. And there will be a lot of assumptions with plants & plantbuffs and the high amount of skillshots with different hitboxes and damage in ticks. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
They are kinda similar in that they are damage dealers from the support role but their roles afterwards are different. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On November 02 2014 08:35 Prog wrote: Claiming that "quick math indicates x" without presenting the math is not exactly useful. In fact it looks just fishy because it is a cop-out against people disagreeing with the assumptions build into your calculations. And there will be a lot of assumptions with plants & plantbuffs and the high amount of skillshots with different hitboxes and damage in ticks. Okay, present the math. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
Pretty sure he was asking you to present your math. And he's right. How did you factor in sustained plant damage? That's a HUGE part of her kit. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
You want to make it a good thread, do some work, don't be babies. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 02 2014 23:32 Ketara wrote: This isn't my thread. You want to make it a good thread, do some work, don't be babies. If you make a statement, it common courtesy to back it up as others have before you. You said "quick math indicates X", and laying out the math you used to reach conclusion X is standard. Don't tell others to "do some work" if you won't yourself. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Also people need to learn to ignore Ketara whenever this kind of argument shows up. No math is bad, but Ketara math is so removed from practical considerations that it doesn't matter. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
In lane her autos are much stronger and her model is smaller which are big factors in laning. Just wanted to say I don't think velkoz supp is bad but he is more situational and poke oriented than zyra. | ||
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