[Champion] Riven, The Exile

On February 20 2014 09:57 aurawashere wrote:
I've never played the matchup but I've played both heroes quite a bit. I can see Aatrox winning pre-6 simply because of the threat of an all-in, he can poke with E, fight with his empowered W and has better sustain. Riven imo has a better post 6 she has the burst/cc necessary to end the fight before Aatrox can even get two procs of W off but on the flip side if Aatrox can land a Q post 6 he can burst her down to the point where she has to run or she flat out dies. I think the matchup comes down to if Aatrox can land Q's so imo it's a 50-50 matchup.

On February 20 2014 11:48 Gahlo wrote:

Cause you're Riven and live by stacking AD and there's nothing better to put it in? lol

On February 21 2014 11:05 InfSunday wrote:
So, about what I said regarding Riven v TF, completely dismiss that. It might've been true that Riven wrecks him before the recent nerfs, but Milo just showed me that it's an even matchup. And by that I mean he completely dumpstered me. I'd rate it at 50:50, possibly 60:40 for Riven, because I felt there was a lot of potential for outplay (especially for anyone more skilled at Riven, which pretty much just equates to anyone), but it's certainly not the faceroll I made it out to be.

This is why I normally only ask questions. Dx

On February 22 2014 20:46 MCMilo wrote:
The main issue that comes in TF vs Riven is the base movement speed disparity (330 vs 345).

Having higher base MS over Riven forces her into using skills in response to TF's movements in lane. What this means is when TF goes for a last hit, Riven cannot walk up and THEN use her skills to close the gap in a reliable way. This also means what when Riven goes for a last hit, TF has a much better time reacting to sudden aggression. This will allow more reliable use of Pick-a-Card harass and last hitting. So there are two solutions to making TF faster: Boots and Movespeed Quints. Unfortunately, Boots are way too costly for early laning because it will strap you even harder for mana so you're forced into more blue cards that doesn't even help you against Riven's "snowball" strength. What MS Quints do on the other hand (usually combined with 21-0-9), is that 6% total MS boost increases TF's total MS to 350. Then with the normal Doran's Ring opening, you keep the MS advantage while keeping the early laning stats. This is also a nice boost to your overall game when it gets to boots 2 and/or Lichbane.

What is also evident in this particular matchup is that in previous patches, it didn't matter much if TF had MS advantage. Riven had creep control with her strong wave clear at levels 1-4 and smooth sailing to her mid-game power spike. With the current patch, Broken Wing's early game efficiency dropped heavily and so did her match ups with enemies that had these properties: good wave clear from levels 1-4, higher movement speed (spells, runes, etc), and strong enough fighting ability makes trades dangerous (gank assist, or simply more damage). Kayle is a strong example. When Riven is pushed around levels 1-4, her play-making ability drops significantly. TF can't shove Riven around as well as Kayle, but currently TF has the tools to deal with Riven, albeit not that favorably.

If you want to 1v1 and test it out just add me on League: MCMilo.

On June 21 2014 13:59 Gahlo wrote:

I haven't played it since S2, so I don't know what it's like now.

On July 17 2014 08:03 Gahlo wrote:

Recently played the matchup, stomped him hard. My mind is definitely changed.

On August 21 2014 04:55 LightningStrike wrote:
I remember in a interview with Shook from Alliance that he was trying to counter pick Lee Sin jungle with Riven Jungle and I want to know if there is any logic behind the counter pick? It seems to me that Lee Sin can gank very easily in the early game compared to Riven.

On August 21 2014 10:34 Kinie wrote:


I think the idea behind it is you invade him as Riven at/around level 3 and wreck him, now that he no longer has an attack speed slow on the second hit of his E. I could be wrong though, I've never jungled as Riven.