Hydra also works and the damage is actually pretty even with the BotRK build but I still prefer Blade for the active because it might allow you to get off a couple more autos. Zed's waveclear/splitpush is basically god tier anyway even without Hydra, so you don't really need it.
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pixelate
United States180 Posts
Hydra also works and the damage is actually pretty even with the BotRK build but I still prefer Blade for the active because it might allow you to get off a couple more autos. Zed's waveclear/splitpush is basically god tier anyway even without Hydra, so you don't really need it. | ||
Amui
Canada10561 Posts
On September 08 2013 17:21 greggy wrote: do you reckon dshield + pot going into bruta is better than double rejuv + pots and then tiamat? I'm not sold on hydra on zed if I'm honest, bruta -> bt seems stronger but I've only played like 4 games so far also, max q or w after e? maxing q seems better if you just afkfarm to 18 but that seems to defeat the point of zed As far as dshield goes, because faker does it is good enough for me. As other dude said, Q>E>W. After the changes, Q does quite a bit more damage if the first target you hit is your opponent. | ||
nanospartan
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
hydra pick one + BC LW GA situational Hydra for more damage, Botrk if you want the slow and slightly less damage (honestly both 1 shot any ap w/o zhoyna's and anyone else w/o >1 armor item if you aren't behind in farm) | ||
GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
there are likely options that would be more damage but cutlass slow + bruta stats is super well rounded while being strong damage. | ||
greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On September 09 2013 05:49 greggy wrote: I'm slightly confused - do you get cutlass and bruta, build 1 defensive item and then get more damage? or is it cutlass, bruta, damage and then defensive items? where does BT fit in? is it completely obsolete - although seeing how fast zed farms stacking it shouldn't be a problem at all, should it? hydra does have the advantage of another active to use during combo though. the most popular build is Cutlass > Bruta > upgrade to Botrk > LW > GA > upgrade to BC with a situational defensive item anywhere after LW. you can do the same build with Hydra where cutlass = tiamat and botrk = hydra but it's not as popular. | ||
Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
then when you can't, you can split push | ||
GhandiEAGLE
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Chieftain HOONTAH
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GhandiEAGLE
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On September 09 2013 07:09 Slusher wrote: the most popular build is Cutlass > Bruta > upgrade to Botrk > LW > GA > upgrade to BC with a situational defensive item anywhere after LW. you can do the same build with Hydra where cutlass = tiamat and botrk = hydra but it's not as popular. Bruta's DPS increase / gold falls off pretty quickly. I think you should get it as a first item, at the latest after a few dorans, if at all. Bruta's DPS falls off with level as the opponent gets more armor. You better be valuing that slow at a metric ton. Level 9 Level 18 There's a problem with this spreadsheet. I didn't calculate burst damage by level and assumed all skills were at their level 18 states. But this benefits both Brutalizer and Botrk and it should benefit them equally. This is for Rengar not Zed but it should still apply. Also I had a bug for black cleaver for level 18. If you want to see the details eg botrk's active's damage calculation, they're on drive. Though probably outdated. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtekUM_l-4IzdFZJeUdJeEctSG1IZUQ5QXd6S01mZHc&usp=drive_web#gid=0 | ||
emraaa
Germany505 Posts
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Sakray
France2198 Posts
Imo the cutlass slow isn't important, but the damage of its active is still a good boost to your ultimate. | ||
Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
On October 10 2013 21:53 emraaa wrote: i buy nearly always bruta first into botrk, would only buy cutlass first if you really need sustain in lane the slow isn't really needed because you oneshot people anyway well, yeah... but the damage from bruta isn't really needed, because you one-shot people anyways | ||
obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On October 11 2013 03:50 Tooplark wrote: well, yeah... but the damage from bruta isn't really needed, because you one-shot people anyways You can always one shot people better. | ||
Leeto
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