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Sermokala
United States14103 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Thresh could also grab an early longsword for some bully potential, and late game turn it into a Zekes Herald. If we're running something like Thresh + Nautilus + Cho'gath, we can really split the support itemization up and allow Thresh to build a little bit of damage. | ||
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Arekan
United States248 Posts
On February 03 2013 01:17 Ketara wrote: I wonder if, for the Ryze build in this comp, it would be a good idea to rush the Manamune, to give him the AD to allow him to push down the tower in the 2v1. Thresh could also grab an early longsword for some bully potential, and late game turn it into a Zekes Herald. If we're running something like Thresh + Nautilus + Cho'gath, we can really split the support itemization up and allow Thresh to build a little bit of damage. The issue I see with straight rushing Manamune is that there were multiple times where the extra health from catalyst saved my ass, allowing me to grab the double kill on their solo and jungle ganking. I could see it being done if their jungler is Udyr or something so I don't have to worry about the gank as much. As long as Thresh's Q passive stays as is, I think a little damage could be useful if it can be afforded in the build. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On February 03 2013 00:23 sob3k wrote: Lux support really isnt worth trying, its been done a ton and its just basically a crappy version of Zyra. I dunno, I like playing lux support. Her q is a whole lot harder to hit than zyra's e but it practically guarantees a kill during laning if your adc is well positioned. Also, I feel her burst is slightly better and her shield is very strong in the mid and late game (if you max it second). Her ult has nothing on zyra's, though. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11743 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Lets say both Ryze and Thresh grabbed an early longsword (they know they'll be building them into things) and both took the 5% tower damage mastery, that would mitigate a lot of this inability to damage towers. | ||
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necrosed
Brazil885 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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ketchup
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with Nami support as she can pretty much go support like normal after setting up the camps for your AD jungle. Jungler taking no damage is pretty huge. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On February 03 2013 09:59 Seuss wrote: I don't think we should plan tests around bugs which aren't likely to last more than a week. That's true enough, but I think it's bound to let you guys have some fun too. It's part of why we play LoL and abusing funny bugs feels like it should be #1 in a place named TROLLS | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
We could have Friday for goofing off in an in-house setting, having fun, testing rando stuff, and then on Saturdays or some other day pick something we've tested that actually seems legit and test it in the ranked 5s with stream and etc for an hour or two. We did the ranked on Friday because we magically had exactly 5 people. I had a lot of fun with the ranked game and would like to do more, but if we have 10 people for goofing off we shouldn't be like "Screw you guys, we're gonna do ranked games." | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On February 03 2013 00:23 sob3k wrote: Lux support really isnt worth trying, its been done a ton and its just basically a crappy version of Zyra. Zyra doesn't have a shield (which totally fucking rocks early trades. Shield self + your carry, twice ~2-3 sec apart while fighting? won that fight.) Lux has her place. Obviously she doesnt have an aoe teamfight/disengage ulti, but she has a place. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On February 03 2013 15:53 sylverfyre wrote: Zyra doesn't have a shield (which totally fucking rocks early trades. Shield self + your carry, twice ~2-3 sec apart while fighting? won that fight.) Lux has her place. Obviously she doesnt have an aoe teamfight/disengage ulti, but she has a place. Yeah, in the long line of supports worse than Zyra. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On February 04 2013 00:56 Zdrastochye wrote: Yeah, in the long line of supports worse than Zyra. I think Lux has her niche, but it would be fair to say that she's only on-par or better than Zyra in a very limited set of circumstances. She rides a much finer line than Zyra in terms of effectiveness, if you fall behind or get crushed on Lux that's fairly fatal to your later game utility (the same is not true of Zyra). On February 03 2013 11:50 Ketara wrote: Do we want to do the ranked games on a different day? We could have Friday for goofing off in an in-house setting, having fun, testing rando stuff, and then on Saturdays or some other day pick something we've tested that actually seems legit and test it in the ranked 5s with stream and etc for an hour or two. We did the ranked on Friday because we magically had exactly 5 people. I had a lot of fun with the ranked game and would like to do more, but if we have 10 people for goofing off we shouldn't be like "Screw you guys, we're gonna do ranked games." Testing is never ruled out during the week. However, I already have a lot of obligations with specific, immutable time requirements (e.g. MwM and other things), so I'm not really keen to add another inflexible commitment. If players are around for TL RnD during the week we can certainly try and play some. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
I'm so going to test that shit. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On February 04 2013 12:48 Djagulingu wrote: After watching Nyjacky a little bit today, I decided to try out AP Cho Gath in a similar way to AP Teemo: By building his auto attacks. The build in my head contains malady, nashors, deathcap, abyssal scepter, hourglass and ofc zerker's greaves. I'm so going to test that shit. Unfortunately cho is melee range so if you build that you are going to blow up instantly. | ||
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