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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 27 2013 23:50 GMT
#181
On December 28 2013 06:10 Sufficiency wrote:
I feel Swain should be thriving in this meta, but something is holding him back... maybe it's the mana.

He's tanky as good sustain + sustained damage, but the mana cost for his ult gets really obnoxious the more you use it making you stop, and when you stop you lose your sustain which is never good.

Not to mention you have to sink two slots into mana items to even be able to use your ult later, aswell as have blue buff to keep it up for a reasonable amount of time
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 29 2013 12:31 GMT
#182
any thoughts on dfg swain and using your ult for burst heal as opposed to sustained? saw a few threads on reddit about it
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Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
December 29 2013 12:42 GMT
#183
On December 28 2013 08:50 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 06:10 Sufficiency wrote:
I feel Swain should be thriving in this meta, but something is holding him back... maybe it's the mana.

He's tanky as good sustain + sustained damage, but the mana cost for his ult gets really obnoxious the more you use it making you stop, and when you stop you lose your sustain which is never good.

Not to mention you have to sink two slots into mana items to even be able to use your ult later, aswell as have blue buff to keep it up for a reasonable amount of time


'i find athenes to sustain his mana good enough in most cases actually
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 29 2013 14:21 GMT
#184
On December 29 2013 21:42 Pulimuli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 08:50 arb wrote:
On December 28 2013 06:10 Sufficiency wrote:
I feel Swain should be thriving in this meta, but something is holding him back... maybe it's the mana.

He's tanky as good sustain + sustained damage, but the mana cost for his ult gets really obnoxious the more you use it making you stop, and when you stop you lose your sustain which is never good.

Not to mention you have to sink two slots into mana items to even be able to use your ult later, aswell as have blue buff to keep it up for a reasonable amount of time


'i find athenes to sustain his mana good enough in most cases actually

Ive toyed around with something like RoA/Tear/Athenes/Hat/Hourglass(or SV) before.
I mean unless team fights are ending super fast, well even if they are actually the ever growing cost on your ult is gonna make it so the mana back from Athenes wont be enough eventually
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 30 2013 12:08 GMT
#185
On December 28 2013 06:10 Sufficiency wrote:
I feel Swain should be thriving in this meta, but something is holding him back... maybe it's the mana.

Offlane, Cowl destroys him (as it does to most AP champs), while the popularity of manaless opponents is a bitch to deal with, especially when they have sustain too.
Mid, he's still escapeless and easy to push under his tower.

As the game goes on his lack of range makes it hard to reach ranged carries, and to kill huge tanks like Shyvana, Mundo, Renekton, it takes really long so your mana pool really suffers and you need the enemy team to lack a threat high enough to warrant immediate removal (hard to reach and deal with Caitlyn, Jinx, Tristana, Kog, etc. as Swain).
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