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bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
May 31 2013 16:59 GMT
#81
The build is really fun once you complete your tiamat/hydra, but how do you survive lane until then?

Either I was doing it really wrong or I was just outplayed by the Jarvan I faced yesterday; I couldn't compete with his early-game harass, and empowered W took far too long to get to make up for Jarvan's EQ-auto harass.

I was actually able to handle him (despite his kill lead) once I completed Hydra and Kindlegem, but what do you do levels 1-5?
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 31 2013 17:11 GMT
#82
I need to get good enough to activate Rengar's ult and keep fighting while trying to stealth. Is it possible to auto someone after pressing R and still stealth later?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
May 31 2013 17:33 GMT
#83
On June 01 2013 01:59 bmn wrote:
The build is really fun once you complete your tiamat/hydra, but how do you survive lane until then?

Either I was doing it really wrong or I was just outplayed by the Jarvan I faced yesterday; I couldn't compete with his early-game harass, and empowered W took far too long to get to make up for Jarvan's EQ-auto harass.

I was actually able to handle him (despite his kill lead) once I completed Hydra and Kindlegem, but what do you do levels 1-5?

Who cares? huehuehuehue

On June 01 2013 02:11 obesechicken13 wrote:
I need to get good enough to activate Rengar's ult and keep fighting while trying to stealth. Is it possible to auto someone after pressing R and still stealth later?


Yes, the stealth can only be broken once it has actually started.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 05 2013 16:52 GMT
#84
I encountered a Hydra first Rengar when I was playing Jax, and it was obnoxious as hell. He felt a lot stronger than usual, and his pushing power was crazy. Then he just roamed and murdered everyone on my team and I felt like I couldn't really do anything (partly because the enemy team had a TF so following him was ill advised when I didn't know where TF was).
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
June 05 2013 17:18 GMT
#85
On June 06 2013 01:52 zer0das wrote:
I encountered a Hydra first Rengar when I was playing Jax, and it was obnoxious as hell. He felt a lot stronger than usual, and his pushing power was crazy. Then he just roamed and murdered everyone on my team and I felt like I couldn't really do anything (partly because the enemy team had a TF so following him was ill advised when I didn't know where TF was).

Thats a bit unsettling, Jax has been very reliable for me in countering Rengar's lvl 2 all-in, but I guess since the red pot changes I haven't faced much Rengars in general and maybe the ones left are playing safer? Or were you both jungling?
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 05 2013 17:34 GMT
#86
It was top lane.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
June 05 2013 18:06 GMT
#87
it's generally better to run [tiamat] rengar from the jungle

you have better roam potential, can start double rejuv, tiamat makes your clear not garbage, and post-6 ganks are dumb
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Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
June 05 2013 18:15 GMT
#88
On June 06 2013 03:06 101toss wrote:
it's generally better to run [tiamat] rengar from the jungle

you have better roam potential, can start double rejuv, tiamat makes your clear not garbage, and post-6 ganks are dumb

I imagine though that by the time you finish the Tiamat, clear speed isn't really as big of a priority given Rengar's kit/playstyle but I do like it's contribution in teamfights on Rengar
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 23 2013 04:36 GMT
#89
Is assassin Rengar the only legitimate Rengar? And if so out of the jungle do you give up flash for ignite?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4116 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 10:51:47
June 23 2013 09:05 GMT
#90
On June 23 2013 13:36 obesechicken13 wrote:
Is assassin Rengar the only legitimate Rengar? And if so out of the jungle do you give up flash for ignite?


IMO assassin Rengar is the only legitimate Rengar, actually u can go for more tanky Rengar, but it has to be with Spirit Visage, Solari Locket and the jungle item that provides CD reduction (can;'t remember the name) but u still gotta have 2 heavy damage items to start with. That kind of tanky Rengar may somehow works coz of the enormous CD reduction u get.

Regarding ignite/flash you are not Shaco u dont have gap closer pre 6 and after 6 the CD is long enough so u cannot only rely on ulti for ganks. I actually sacrifice Flash for Ghost, without Ghost mid and side lanes from the river are actually ungankable, the only gank u can do without Ghost is at side lanes coming from behind and hide in bushes.



And my 2 cents for Rengar overall:

At my silver level where people die like flies to junglers with reliable gap closers, I don't like Rengar jungle, coz its hard to gank pre 6, moreover if your lane doesnt react on time (which happens a lot) Rengar can be easily killed by the guy u gank, since Rengar doesnt clear very fast in the beginning and often comes to the ganks with significant health deficit. So what happens most of the time is you gotta farm in the jungle while your team dies to their jungle every minute (like its Cool Down based) or you gotta risk ganks where you may die easily with or without counter-ganking. However, in higher Elo where people dont die so often Rengar should be viable pick in jungle I suppose.
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bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
June 23 2013 13:17 GMT
#91
would you recommend him for the right line?
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 23 2013 15:49 GMT
#92
Rengar doesn't get low. Do you use your empowered W?

On June 23 2013 22:17 bypLy wrote:
would you recommend him for the right line?

Yeah why not. Generally people with guns and bows or girly characters who heal you go in the bottom lane.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 18:49:32
June 23 2013 18:48 GMT
#93
Here's a basic triple Q: I think it was fixed by putting a cooldown on Q on use rather than activation.
  1. You start with less than 5 stacks of your passive. Even 0 stacks will work.
  2. stealth
  3. It doesn't matter when you first activate your normal Q as long as it's before you gain 5 stacks
  4. Then you get a 5th stack of your passive from your ult
  5. Then you wait for your normal Q to get off cooldown (if needed)
  6. Then you jump on your target proccing your normal Q
  7. Press Q to activate your Empowered Q
  8. Autoattack your empowered Q
  9. Activate your normal Q
  10. autoattack again with your normal Q
  11. W
  12. E

    This gives you 2 normal Qs and one empowered Q. As well you gain 3 ferocity stack from your QWE at the end and up to 1 from leaving stealth and attacking. If you have 14 stacks on your bonetooth then you end up with 4 stacks of your passive.

    This method requires no real setup but you can't jump on someone until you have 5 stacks and your normal Q is about to come off cooldown. It also gives very few empowered Qs.

    It is the most timing dependent.

    It seems like a bug that Rengar's Q's cooldown starts ticking as soon at level 1 you can also cheese people by hiding in a brush, activating Q, waiting for them to come near, and then double Qing.]




    Here's Zekent's
  1. You start with any amount of stacks. The more the faster you can do this.
  2. You activate ult
  3. Get 5 stacks of your passive
  4. Activate empowered Q
  5. This won't break stealth so you will keep gaining ferocity. Zekent waits for 2 ferocity
  6. Then you Jump on someone, proccing your empowered Q
  7. Get one normal Q off
  8. W E. You now have 5 stacks
  9. Then you Empowered Q again

    This gets 2 empowered Q's off and 1 normal Q off. You end up with 0 stacks of your passive.
    It's good.
    This is not as timing dependent as the last combo and has a higher burst.





Don't forget to combine with Hydra and BotrK and ignite as these are the items/summoners that provide the most burst I think.

I think the only way to improve on Zekent's triple Q is to try to end up with more stacks of your passive at the end.
You ideally start with a few stacks. More is better and in fact you need at least 1 stack since Rengar's ult only lasts 7 seconds for 9 stacks gained during the ult. Activate ult and wait till you have 5 stacks. Emp Q. Wait for 5 more stacks. Jump. Emp Q. Q W E. This leaves you with 2 Empowered Qs, 1 normal Q, 1 W, 1 E and 4 stacks of your passive.

Basically change step 5 above to wait for more stacks.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 25 2013 02:57 GMT
#94
Here's a spreadsheet for Rengar's burst using multiple items.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtekUM_l-4IzdFZJeUdJeEctSG1IZUQ5QXd6S01mZHc&usp=sharing

He's always bordering being able to assasinate people mid game and then he needs several offensive items to remain a threat later in the game. You really need ignite to secure kills before you get exhausted or stuff happens. But that means that mid to late game you'll be trading kills when you assasinate someone successfully.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
June 25 2013 14:36 GMT
#95
Is rengar still viable at top after nerfs?I wanna give him another shot if its good in soloq games.
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SoulSever
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada779 Posts
June 27 2013 03:18 GMT
#96
tons of rengar top incoming since OnlyRengar stream got mad numbers today on his 1st time streaming? Few teams can cope with his splitpushing and 1v1
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4116 Posts
June 27 2013 09:09 GMT
#97
On June 27 2013 12:18 SoulSever wrote:
tons of rengar top incoming since OnlyRengar stream got mad numbers today on his 1st time streaming? Few teams can cope with his splitpushing and 1v1

link to stream?
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SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
June 30 2013 16:31 GMT
#98
Yeah, I watched his stream, say that he clicks to level up his skills, has very poor decision making, and isn't that articulate. So I bought rengar, and if you want to get FB it fucking easy. Rengar is quite good right now. He kinda reminds me of a mix between nidalee and kassadin. Stay in bushes to juke, blow your load and back off. Then add in that he can instantly put down 600+ damage to a turret and have a 150% AS buff on top of it if you want to split.

If you suck at top lane like me, pick rengar.
SoulSever
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada779 Posts
June 30 2013 22:20 GMT
#99
On July 01 2013 01:31 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Yeah, I watched his stream, say that he clicks to level up his skills, has very poor decision making, and isn't that articulate. So I bought rengar, and if you want to get FB it fucking easy. Rengar is quite good right now. He kinda reminds me of a mix between nidalee and kassadin. Stay in bushes to juke, blow your load and back off. Then add in that he can instantly put down 600+ damage to a turret and have a 150% AS buff on top of it if you want to split.

If you suck at top lane like me, pick rengar.


His stream was similar to WoDx but less condescending (similar voice and speech patterns). Also pretty humble and tries hard to be polite. Things I look for when I have time to casually watch a stream
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Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
July 01 2013 02:52 GMT
#100
My only gripe about OnlyRengar is that he tries to win the lane through brute force and won't do it via attrition. It's not the best option Rengar has but it's certainly a viable option when you're behind in lane to a melee fighter. Whoring W heals is something i'd like to see him to do more.

It sure makes for some interesting matches though.
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