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bmn
886 Posts
Either I was doing it really wrong or I was just outplayed by the Jarvan I faced yesterday; I couldn't compete with his early-game harass, and empowered W took far too long to get to make up for Jarvan's EQ-auto harass. I was actually able to handle him (despite his kill lead) once I completed Hydra and Kindlegem, but what do you do levels 1-5? | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:59 bmn wrote: The build is really fun once you complete your tiamat/hydra, but how do you survive lane until then? Either I was doing it really wrong or I was just outplayed by the Jarvan I faced yesterday; I couldn't compete with his early-game harass, and empowered W took far too long to get to make up for Jarvan's EQ-auto harass. I was actually able to handle him (despite his kill lead) once I completed Hydra and Kindlegem, but what do you do levels 1-5? Who cares? huehuehuehue On June 01 2013 02:11 obesechicken13 wrote: I need to get good enough to activate Rengar's ult and keep fighting while trying to stealth. Is it possible to auto someone after pressing R and still stealth later? Yes, the stealth can only be broken once it has actually started. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On June 06 2013 01:52 zer0das wrote: I encountered a Hydra first Rengar when I was playing Jax, and it was obnoxious as hell. He felt a lot stronger than usual, and his pushing power was crazy. Then he just roamed and murdered everyone on my team and I felt like I couldn't really do anything (partly because the enemy team had a TF so following him was ill advised when I didn't know where TF was). Thats a bit unsettling, Jax has been very reliable for me in countering Rengar's lvl 2 all-in, but I guess since the red pot changes I haven't faced much Rengars in general and maybe the ones left are playing safer? Or were you both jungling? | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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101toss
3232 Posts
you have better roam potential, can start double rejuv, tiamat makes your clear not garbage, and post-6 ganks are dumb | ||
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On June 06 2013 03:06 101toss wrote: it's generally better to run [tiamat] rengar from the jungle you have better roam potential, can start double rejuv, tiamat makes your clear not garbage, and post-6 ganks are dumb I imagine though that by the time you finish the Tiamat, clear speed isn't really as big of a priority given Rengar's kit/playstyle but I do like it's contribution in teamfights on Rengar | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4146 Posts
On June 23 2013 13:36 obesechicken13 wrote: Is assassin Rengar the only legitimate Rengar? And if so out of the jungle do you give up flash for ignite? IMO assassin Rengar is the only legitimate Rengar, actually u can go for more tanky Rengar, but it has to be with Spirit Visage, Solari Locket and the jungle item that provides CD reduction (can;'t remember the name) but u still gotta have 2 heavy damage items to start with. That kind of tanky Rengar may somehow works coz of the enormous CD reduction u get. Regarding ignite/flash you are not Shaco u dont have gap closer pre 6 and after 6 the CD is long enough so u cannot only rely on ulti for ganks. I actually sacrifice Flash for Ghost, without Ghost mid and side lanes from the river are actually ungankable, the only gank u can do without Ghost is at side lanes coming from behind and hide in bushes. And my 2 cents for Rengar overall: At my silver level where people die like flies to junglers with reliable gap closers, I don't like Rengar jungle, coz its hard to gank pre 6, moreover if your lane doesnt react on time (which happens a lot) Rengar can be easily killed by the guy u gank, since Rengar doesnt clear very fast in the beginning and often comes to the ganks with significant health deficit. So what happens most of the time is you gotta farm in the jungle while your team dies to their jungle every minute (like its Cool Down based) or you gotta risk ganks where you may die easily with or without counter-ganking. However, in higher Elo where people dont die so often Rengar should be viable pick in jungle I suppose. | ||
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bypLy
757 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On June 23 2013 22:17 bypLy wrote: would you recommend him for the right line? Yeah why not. Generally people with guns and bows or girly characters who heal you go in the bottom lane. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
Don't forget to combine with Hydra and BotrK and ignite as these are the items/summoners that provide the most burst I think. I think the only way to improve on Zekent's triple Q is to try to end up with more stacks of your passive at the end. You ideally start with a few stacks. More is better and in fact you need at least 1 stack since Rengar's ult only lasts 7 seconds for 9 stacks gained during the ult. Activate ult and wait till you have 5 stacks. Emp Q. Wait for 5 more stacks. Jump. Emp Q. Q W E. This leaves you with 2 Empowered Qs, 1 normal Q, 1 W, 1 E and 4 stacks of your passive. Basically change step 5 above to wait for more stacks. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtekUM_l-4IzdFZJeUdJeEctSG1IZUQ5QXd6S01mZHc&usp=sharing He's always bordering being able to assasinate people mid game and then he needs several offensive items to remain a threat later in the game. You really need ignite to secure kills before you get exhausted or stuff happens. But that means that mid to late game you'll be trading kills when you assasinate someone successfully. | ||
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Silentenigma
Turkey2037 Posts
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SoulSever
Canada779 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4146 Posts
On June 27 2013 12:18 SoulSever wrote: tons of rengar top incoming since OnlyRengar stream got mad numbers today on his 1st time streaming? Few teams can cope with his splitpushing and 1v1 link to stream? | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
If you suck at top lane like me, pick rengar. | ||
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SoulSever
Canada779 Posts
On July 01 2013 01:31 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Yeah, I watched his stream, say that he clicks to level up his skills, has very poor decision making, and isn't that articulate. So I bought rengar, and if you want to get FB it fucking easy. Rengar is quite good right now. He kinda reminds me of a mix between nidalee and kassadin. Stay in bushes to juke, blow your load and back off. Then add in that he can instantly put down 600+ damage to a turret and have a 150% AS buff on top of it if you want to split. If you suck at top lane like me, pick rengar. His stream was similar to WoDx but less condescending (similar voice and speech patterns). Also pretty humble and tries hard to be polite. Things I look for when I have time to casually watch a stream | ||
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Phunkapotamus
United States496 Posts
It sure makes for some interesting matches though. | ||
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