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) as long as I have blue, rather than gank at level 3 or even 4, unless it's a free kill. Vamp scepter is fine, allows you to just jungle without backing ever as long as you have blue buff. Boots+3 if you want to gank earlier and have trouble reaching your targets, maybe cloth+5 if you're afraid of being heavily counterjungled?[Champion] Olaf - Page 6
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
) as long as I have blue, rather than gank at level 3 or even 4, unless it's a free kill. Vamp scepter is fine, allows you to just jungle without backing ever as long as you have blue buff. Boots+3 if you want to gank earlier and have trouble reaching your targets, maybe cloth+5 if you're afraid of being heavily counterjungled? | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On May 09 2012 17:11 Alaric wrote: I wouldn't know, I would just clear all day (8 minutes wriggles, like T_D says ) as long as I have blue, rather than gank at level 3 or even 4, unless it's a free kill. Vamp scepter is fine, allows you to just jungle without backing ever as long as you have blue buff. Boots+3 if you want to gank earlier and have trouble reaching your targets, maybe cloth+5 if you're afraid of being heavily counterjungled?Personally I like the boots opening far more than the vamp opening. It let's olaf have the option of going for easy ganks while still letting him power jungle until blue runs out because W+Q keeps you high enough if you got a good leash to clear a lot. IMO cloth 5 is reserved for facing extremely strong duelist junglers who are running smite exhaust. | ||
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storkfan
493 Posts
On May 09 2012 20:55 Amui wrote: Personally I like the boots opening far more than the vamp opening. It let's olaf have the option of going for easy ganks while still letting him power jungle until blue runs out because W+Q keeps you high enough if you got a good leash to clear a lot. IMO cloth 5 is reserved for facing extremely strong duelist junglers who are running smite exhaust. imo long sword is good for balance - it makes ganks stronger with its Q synergy, and clears jungle fast as well. Easy to get wriggles+boots during first port with this setup. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Should I be focusing more on "bruiser" items, diving into fights, charging for carries? Should I get tank stuff and peel/eat damage? These seem to be his only viable roles, but I must admit it's rather scary to run headlong in when you're not a full on tank like some champs I play. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On June 07 2012 15:25 Requizen wrote: I recently picked up Olaf since I was sitting on IP, and am rather enjoying him. He's a very strong lane, an interesting (albeit limited) jungle, but I'm wondering: Once we move past laning, what should my job be? Without CC, he's not a team fighting monster like a Galio or Naut, and he's only moderately naturally tanky (limited to his ult being up and being able to hit things for W). Should I be focusing more on "bruiser" items, diving into fights, charging for carries? Should I get tank stuff and peel/eat damage? These seem to be his only viable roles, but I must admit it's rather scary to run headlong in when you're not a full on tank like some champs I play. Get cdr and bruiser items. Mallet, Randuins, Frozen Heart are pretty common items on him. Mostly you just pop your ult and go crazy on their carries. After a certain point, AD carries get to the point where they can melt anyone; at that stage Olaf becomes much more useless, but Olaf is really strong in the midgame when carries can't 1v1 him and still rely on their supports/bruisers to provide some peel for them. | ||
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bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
On June 07 2012 15:33 Ryuu314 wrote: Get cdr and bruiser items. Mallet, Randuins, Frozen Heart are pretty common items on him. Mostly you just pop your ult and go crazy on their carries. After a certain point, AD carries get to the point where they can melt anyone; at that stage Olaf becomes much more useless, but Olaf is really strong in the midgame when carries can't 1v1 him and still rely on their supports/bruisers to provide some peel for them. I don't think there is a point in the game when ad carries can shut down olaf, if anything they have to kite him all day. he is beast 1v1. I agree lulu+graves can easily kill olaf, but its a different situation. Late game olaf usually goes crazy killing towers and inhibitors. He can then just pop his ult+ghost and trololo run away. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On June 07 2012 15:44 bokeevboke wrote: I don't think there is a point in the game when ad carries can shut down olaf, if anything they have to kite him all day. he is beast 1v1. I agree lulu+graves can easily kill olaf, but its a different situation. Late game olaf usually goes crazy killing towers and inhibitors. He can then just pop his ult+ghost and trololo run away. At some point in the game, a farmed, 5-6 item AD carry with lifesteal can 1v1 anything (except maybe another AD carry but then it's dependent on picks and micro) simply because of how offensive items scale much harder than defensive items. Ofc, if the Olaf has an exhaust and you try to fight through the exhaust then yes, you may lose, but kiting through the exhaust duration isn't very hard for most AD carries if you have some form of escape. EDIT: I didn't mean that an AD carry could "shut down" olaf as in prevent him from taking objectives or whatnot. I was more of responding to what Requizen was askin about what to do with Olaf during teamfights. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Unfortunately, it didn't help me last game when I got crapped on by a Darius :\ Still out CSed him and dropped his tower, but it was demoralizing to say the least. Any tips against him? | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On June 07 2012 16:19 Requizen wrote: Thanks for the advice, much appreciated. I was building him similarly to this already, so that's good. Unfortunately, it didn't help me last game when I got crapped on by a Darius :\ Still out CSed him and dropped his tower, but it was demoralizing to say the least. Any tips against him? i've never played that matchup so I don't really know. but I have been playign darius a bit lately and based on watching smash's stream I'd imagine that the matchup would be favored by Darius simply because Darius outdamages Olaf really hard for the first few levels and can snowball hard off of that. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On June 07 2012 16:26 Ryuu314 wrote: i've never played that matchup so I don't really know. but I have been playign darius a bit lately and based on watching smash's stream I'd imagine that the matchup would be favored by Darius simply because Darius outdamages Olaf really hard for the first few levels and can snowball hard off of that. That was my thought, and I definitely committed too hard. I should have held back for the first few levels, or maybe even until 6 and just harassed with Q. Instead, he got a bit out of hand. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Requizen
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On June 12 2012 04:49 Alaric wrote: Uh... you know jungler Olaf always max Q anyway because he basically farm more with that than his aa, right? I disagree, Q-reliant clearing drains a LOT of mana, usually i only depend on it during my first clear, giving away 2. blue cause i can still clear very fast once i have madred's/lantern. I never max Q when jungling, unless we have 2 manaless solos. But then probably 1 of them is Vlad so i will give him a blue anyway. Just because vlad with early boost to CDR is even more annoying On June 10 2012 13:17 Requizen wrote: Man, I can not gank as jungle Olaf to save my life. Even when I can land axes, that slow is not nearly enough to secure a kill. Bleh, having to rely on teammates is suffering. Nowadays i only pick jungle Olaf when i'm playing premade 5s and my friends grab champs with hard CC. | ||
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
If you come from river, throw the axe while they are backing up, even if you land the axe you can't pick the axe up and attack the other guy cause they are in 2 different directions if you run up to him and then throw the axe in the direction he is running you can chain axes for a more succesfull gank Of course competent players aren't going to let you simply run to them if they're not making out with your top tower, but if you can do it, definetly hold on to your axe for the most time possible | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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ekra
Spain52 Posts
I think Olaf's E is really strong and try to abuse it (max E 1st, then W), so I get items that give me health and CDR. I usually start cloth 5 pots or boots 5 pots. After that I get: HoG (health +gp10) Philo Stone -> Shurelia's Reverie (CDR, health, mana/health regen, and an extra ghost) Mercs Glacial Shroud -> Frozen Heart (armor + CDR) Frozen Mallet I've been asked if I'm trolling, but it actually works for me. What do U guys think? | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On June 15 2012 03:34 ekra wrote: hi guys, I'd like to know your opinion on my Olaf top build. I think Olaf's E is really strong and try to abuse it (max E 1st, then W), so I get items that give me health and CDR. I usually start cloth 5 pots or boots 5 pots. After that I get: HoG (health +gp10) Philo Stone -> Shurelia's Reverie (CDR, health, mana/health regen, and an extra ghost) Mercs Glacial Shroud -> Frozen Heart (armor + CDR) Frozen Mallet I've been asked if I'm trolling, but it actually works for me. What do U guys think? how to start boots 5? sounds op teach me! but really you cant build the same shit every game. what if you're laning vs rumble? if you stick to that build and buy 0 mr you will get trashed. | ||
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