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On September 14 2011 04:32 Mogwai wrote: Brand is a stupid asshole who just facerolls and does a completely unreasonable amount of damage. Everyone should play Karma instead IMO. is he on the mogwai blacklist too?
who else is on there, other than lee sin?
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On September 14 2011 04:32 Mogwai wrote: Brand is a stupid asshole who just facerolls and does a completely unreasonable amount of damage. Everyone should play Karma instead IMO. I lol'd extra at this because I was Brand that game I beat you. Brand's ult really is the dumbest fucking design, though. Hurpdurp useless with one bounce, hurpdurp overpoweredasfuck with multiple bounces on one target.
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On September 14 2011 04:34 sRapers_ValkS wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 04:32 Mogwai wrote: Brand is a stupid asshole who just facerolls and does a completely unreasonable amount of damage. Everyone should play Karma instead IMO. is he on the mogwai blacklist too? who else is on there, other than lee sin? Lee Sin goes on and off the list.
Poppy is a permanent fixture on the list.
Vlad usually is, but I feel bad enough for him these days that he's been off it for a month or so.
Anivia goes on and off the list, but she's basically only off the list when she's randomly become unpopular at some point in time. She's so fucking frustrating to play against.
Singed is on the list when he's not on my team.
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On September 14 2011 04:48 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 04:34 sRapers_ValkS wrote:On September 14 2011 04:32 Mogwai wrote: Brand is a stupid asshole who just facerolls and does a completely unreasonable amount of damage. Everyone should play Karma instead IMO. is he on the mogwai blacklist too? who else is on there, other than lee sin? Lee Sin goes on and off the list. Poppy is a permanent fixture on the list. Vlad usually is, but I feel bad enough for him these days that he's been off it for a month or so. Anivia goes on and off the list, but she's basically only off the list when she's randomly become unpopular at some point in time. She's so fucking frustrating to play against. Singed is on the list when he's not on my team. No Teemo?
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On September 14 2011 04:51 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 04:48 Mogwai wrote:On September 14 2011 04:34 sRapers_ValkS wrote:On September 14 2011 04:32 Mogwai wrote: Brand is a stupid asshole who just facerolls and does a completely unreasonable amount of damage. Everyone should play Karma instead IMO. is he on the mogwai blacklist too? who else is on there, other than lee sin? Lee Sin goes on and off the list. Poppy is a permanent fixture on the list. Vlad usually is, but I feel bad enough for him these days that he's been off it for a month or so. Anivia goes on and off the list, but she's basically only off the list when she's randomly become unpopular at some point in time. She's so fucking frustrating to play against. Singed is on the list when he's not on my team. No Teemo?
Only his mushrooms.
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Teemo is the best thing that ever happened to this game. Don't you dare bring him into this!
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On September 14 2011 04:53 Mogwai wrote: Teemo is the best thing that ever happened to this game. Don't you dare bring him into this! It sounds like they're underestimating the power of the scout's code.
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Teemo is the #1 "i want to relax now" pick IMO
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On September 14 2011 05:27 Kaniol wrote: Teemo is the #1 "i want to relax now" pick IMO I also feel like any time I have a problem with the metagame I just pick Teemo and he's always the answer.
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Level out e before q. W+E off of a minion is best for harass and farm alike. Also, you underestimate his ult so much. It's so goodman. I am disappoint with this guide's faith in Brand and he abilities. You get so much late game damage. He shouldn't be undermined. Not sure why you would take armor seals. Also, onsidering his passive does 8% of the opponent's max health in damage with every spell he casts (ignoring overlap), he is such a useful utility even in late game. Sir, I simply don't believe you have played Brand enough or in the right way. -_-
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Bump, been playing a lot of Brand lately. He seems really fun(especially baiting two people into a bush for an instant double), but I never really see him played in tourney games(maybe I just don't watch enough to make a correct judgement here).
Do you guys pick up Rylai's before or after Deathcap? I feel like getting Dcap before gives me insane damage, but Rylai's is better for teamfights/survivability.
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Naw, you dont see him in competitive play. His issue is his E got range nerfed, so he cant bully people around as hard.
Not to mention his ultimate STILL sucks.
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On March 20 2012 03:00 Mondeezy wrote: Bump, been playing a lot of Brand lately. He seems really fun(especially baiting two people into a bush for an instant double), but I never really see him played in tourney games(maybe I just don't watch enough to make a correct judgement here).
Do you guys pick up Rylai's before or after Deathcap? I feel like getting Dcap before gives me insane damage, but Rylai's is better for teamfights/survivability.
Scarra played a game with Brand last night on his stream - went Rylais -> WotA -> Cap. The slow is monstrous, was totally worth it. It helps you land the whole combo much easier, and really makes it simple for your team to follow up.
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I really hate facing brand as veigar now. His W seems to outrange my Q, and have a larger radius and shorter delay than my W. It's always hard to land veigar W unless you shoot it before your E. And brand pushes so fast with a decently mana efficient aoe ability, so I feel like I have to max W and can't just max Q point and click like I can with other champs.
My main issue with him though is just laning. Is there a good way to lane against brand? I mean veigar is my goto mid. I might not use him against lb, or kat (stupid glitchy ult), but I feel like he should be ok against brand. Then I try it and I end up having to buy a health pot for every W I get hit with.
My main trick as mid veigar is to either farm with my Q against other farmer champs like morgana and certain karthus/heimers. And to dodge skillshots, from people who outrange me like TF, lux, or brand. I max W and try to keep the lane even. Then I walk into the brush or around, come out for a stun, and QR or WR on them forcing a back, or allowing me to pick up a flash kill in 10 seconds when my stun comes back. Maybe I've just had strings of good brands. I don't feed brand, I just have to back a lot.
I hate ganking brand as a jungler too. Ganking brand starts in the jungle. I try to make sure I have enough health to tank his combo. Then I have to just run up to him from the river/behind him. I avoid his stun. Then I have to hope that my ally doesn't come too close to me, otherwise if I'm underleveled there's a chance he can kill me with a W, lucky Ult, ignite combo. It sucks that even if I kill him, there's a good chance I'll have gotten chunked so hard by WR that I can't gank another lane without backing or using 3 potions(more than a camp of gold).
Maybe I should just be WE'ing him.
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If he pushes that hard his W and E will be on cooldown a lot and you should be able to EWQ him without fearing that much damage in return. Even with only W on cd he can't do that much damage back to you with just EQ since W is always maxed first.
Don't let him poke you with a single spell over and over again without getting punished. Keep track on what he hits you with. If he starts with Q he can't stun you, if he starts with W he can't hit his full damage combo (because of the ablaze bonus on W), and he should never get in range for him to start with E unless he flashes in and then you are probably too low already.
As for junglers ganking him, I'd say anyone that can get in with a proper gap closer are good, because he can only keep people away, not get them off him. LS, maokai, Malph, Pant, Alistar, Noc, Naut etc works wonders. Udyr, nunu etc not so much unless you flash over the Q or he is terribly out of position.
I hope this helps in destroying the fun for us few Brand players that are left!
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On July 11 2012 07:41 Punscho wrote: If he pushes that hard his W and E will be on cooldown a lot and you should be able to EWQ him without fearing that much damage in return. Even with only W on cd he can't do that much damage back to you with just EQ since W is always maxed first.
Don't let him poke you with a single spell over and over again without getting punished. Keep track on what he hits you with. If he starts with Q he can't stun you, if he starts with W he can't hit his full damage combo (because of the ablaze bonus on W), and he should never get in range for him to start with E unless he flashes in and then you are probably too low already.
As for junglers ganking him, I'd say anyone that can get in with a proper gap closer are good, because he can only keep people away, not get them off him. LS, maokai, Malph, Pant, Alistar, Noc, Naut etc works wonders. Udyr, nunu etc not so much unless you flash over the Q or he is terribly out of position.
I hope this helps in destroying the fun for us few Brand players that are left!
I decided to just buy kennen instead. Hate this guy brand
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Been going 2 dorans deathcap/dfg ga and somehow have been winning with brand lul. feel like DFG is only decent on him though because people just love jumping on me when i play as him and feels like an extra spells would help a lot. but rylai's wota still is a pretty decent build i guess. I figure i'll just get to 2k with him when i can. anyone else still play brand?
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i really hate his change from the ulti.
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On September 13 2012 04:40 wussleeQ wrote: Been going 2 dorans deathcap/dfg ga and somehow have been winning with brand lul. feel like DFG is only decent on him though because people just love jumping on me when i play as him and feels like an extra spells would help a lot. but rylai's wota still is a pretty decent build i guess. I figure i'll just get to 2k with him when i can. anyone else still play brand? I dont think you can build him so squishy imo, id atleast thing rylais would be good. Maybe kages dorans dorans rylais dfg dc or something.
He already has 4 damaging spells and that retarded ass passive to go along with it -_-.
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I realize he does a lot of damage with his spells but having more doesn't really hurt. Especially since his CDs are a big issue during team fights. That, and GA is OP. Rylai's is still a pretty good item on him but more recently, I've just built GA on my casters when I feel like that have a sufficient amount of damage.
On the change from his ult, it's hard to actually notice the bounces hitting champs more often but at least it travels a little faster normally now. I really used to enjoy how when 2 people were close enough, the ulti would just hit all 5 hits instantly and do some crazy shit.
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