EPTPersonally I think a good change would be to put duration scaling on his E. 1 second of dodge at level 1 scaling to 2 seconds when maxed like Irelia's stun/slow.
[Champion] Jax - Page 29
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
Personally I think a good change would be to put duration scaling on his E. 1 second of dodge at level 1 scaling to 2 seconds when maxed like Irelia's stun/slow. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14154 Posts
On November 24 2012 21:06 Thereisnosaurus wrote: So has anyone on the PBE tried out frozen fist + ravenous hydra jax? seems to me that could make him comp-breakingly scary when used in some of the modern ori/lulu/zil jaxbomb comps. Frozen fist is really overrated from useing it on the pbe. Black cleaver ravenous hydra jax is what your looking for. Like, If you thought nashors triforce ga jax was out of control you have no idea what you're in for in s3 when bc hydra jax comes. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On November 25 2012 00:44 Sermokala wrote: Frozen fist is really overrated from useing it on the pbe. Black cleaver ravenous hydra jax is what your looking for. Like, If you thought nashors triforce ga jax was out of control you have no idea what you're in for in s3 when bc hydra jax comes. I don't see how Black Cleaver is good for him...magic damage is a huge part of Jax's DPS and building Black Cleaver doesn't benefit that at all. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On November 24 2012 23:53 Curu wrote: I think Jax is going to see some nerfs in the future. He's developing the same sort of problem as pre-nerf Jayce. Pre-nerf Jayce beat everyone in lane and outscaled most toplaners whereas Jax beats most toplaners and outscales everyone. Right now Jax has an absolute advantage in scaling and a comparative advantage in laning. Personally I think a good change would be to put duration scaling on his E. 1 second of dodge at level 1 scaling to 2 seconds when maxed like Irelia's stun/slow. shh! im having too much fun with him also im still not sure he is nerfworthy. there is always going to be a champ or small group of champs that stand out as the best and one of those is jax. it's not as bad as pre-nerf jayce tbh. pre-nerf jayce was nearly unbeatable and basically ungankable. oh hey do u guys really think nashors triforce jax is better to aim for than gunblade triforce..? | ||
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misirlou
Portugal3304 Posts
On November 25 2012 02:09 travis wrote: shh! im having too much fun with him also im still not sure he is nerfworthy. there is always going to be a champ or small group of champs that stand out as the best and one of those is jax. it's not as bad as pre-nerf jayce tbh. pre-nerf jayce was nearly unbeatable and basically ungankable. oh hey do u guys really think nashors triforce jax is better to aim for than gunblade triforce..? yeah, i love it. boots-> 1/2 dorans-> phage->sheen-> stinger-> triforce-> ga/nashor. king | ||
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koreasilver
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
it helps that he literally outtrades everybody around levels 6 and even before then his auto w auto and stun are really good traders. he supports ganks so well, too. late game he's so beast | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On November 25 2012 02:09 travis wrote: shh! im having too much fun with him also im still not sure he is nerfworthy. there is always going to be a champ or small group of champs that stand out as the best and one of those is jax. it's not as bad as pre-nerf jayce tbh. pre-nerf jayce was nearly unbeatable and basically ungankable. oh hey do u guys really think nashors triforce jax is better to aim for than gunblade triforce..? He definitely isn't as bad as pre-nerf Jayce but he is in need of some tweaking. He straight up out lanes most top laners (granted not on the same level that Jayce used to) and even his less favourable matchups are more or less even. Add onto that the fact that he's got by far the strongest late game scaling and he's pushing into OP territory. It is true that there is always a top tier but Jax's top tier is too much above the rest IMO. Irelia is a good example of a hero that is top tier without being broken. She's got great mobility and scales very well but gets shit on by many toplaners in her early levels. There are many matchups that are nightmares for her (Jax is one of them, he's stronger at levels 1-4, weaker at level 5, and then just crushes her post 6 and outscales her) but she can trade that off for a stronger scaling into mid and late game. She gets beat early in return for beating you later. She fits well into almost any team comp but you'll be hesitant to first pick her cause the enemy can give her a real rough time with someone like Jax or Darius. Jax on the other hand beats you early and then brutally rapes you with his lamppost no lube style late. He fits well into almost any team comp and there's no drawback to first picking him, almost nothing gives him a real rough time in lane (and he massively outscales anything that can go even with him/beat him). I don't think he needs any major changes like what Ezreal and Jayce went through but I definitely think something needs to be done to tone down his power at some point in the game. He's a top 5 laner with the absolute best late game. | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
Anyways, I was sitting on six items as Jax and wanted to try something new so I built that Hyrda thing that builds from Tiamat. Holy. Shit. That has to be the most broken item/champ combo ever. | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On November 25 2012 02:09 travis wrote: shh! im having too much fun with him also im still not sure he is nerfworthy. there is always going to be a champ or small group of champs that stand out as the best and one of those is jax. it's not as bad as pre-nerf jayce tbh. pre-nerf jayce was nearly unbeatable and basically ungankable. oh hey do u guys really think nashors triforce jax is better to aim for than gunblade triforce..? stinger is good but finishing nashors is a waste. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
On November 25 2012 15:36 nosliw wrote: How do you rune/mastery jax? The OP is outdated. AD/AD/Armor/MrLvl 21/9 or 30/0/0 if you feel like going balls out. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
i like offense tree at least for the 4% faster swing i run 9/21/0 | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On November 25 2012 07:33 OutlaW- wrote: Morello said he will maybe nerf irelia but I've seen nothing about a jax nerf. Also nashor's isn't a waste, you usually buy it when you already have 3-4 items and by that point slot efficiency is a big deal It wasn't Morello. It was someone else talking about how Jax is OP. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
9/14/7 - in most cases the safest path. Mana for lane sustain, minion damage + general damage reductions and all the important points in offense. 9/21 - Weaker in lane until you have your ultimate to trade with and enough mana to actually do stuff, somewhat better after triforce is built. | ||
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