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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
November 24 2012 14:53 GMT
#561
I think Jax is going to see some nerfs in the future. He's developing the same sort of problem as pre-nerf Jayce. Pre-nerf Jayce beat everyone in lane and outscaled most toplaners whereas Jax beats most toplaners and outscales everyone. Right now Jax has an absolute advantage in scaling and a comparative advantage in laning.

Personally I think a good change would be to put duration scaling on his E. 1 second of dodge at level 1 scaling to 2 seconds when maxed like Irelia's stun/slow.
wat
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
November 24 2012 15:13 GMT
#562
im pretty sure playing jax top has pulled me out of depression
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 15:48:04
November 24 2012 15:44 GMT
#563
On November 24 2012 21:06 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
So has anyone on the PBE tried out frozen fist + ravenous hydra jax? seems to me that could make him comp-breakingly scary when used in some of the modern ori/lulu/zil jaxbomb comps.


Frozen fist is really overrated from useing it on the pbe. Black cleaver ravenous hydra jax is what your looking for.

Like, If you thought nashors triforce ga jax was out of control you have no idea what you're in for in s3 when bc hydra jax comes.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
November 24 2012 16:14 GMT
#564
On November 25 2012 00:44 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 21:06 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
So has anyone on the PBE tried out frozen fist + ravenous hydra jax? seems to me that could make him comp-breakingly scary when used in some of the modern ori/lulu/zil jaxbomb comps.


Frozen fist is really overrated from useing it on the pbe. Black cleaver ravenous hydra jax is what your looking for.

Like, If you thought nashors triforce ga jax was out of control you have no idea what you're in for in s3 when bc hydra jax comes.


I don't see how Black Cleaver is good for him...magic damage is a huge part of Jax's DPS and building Black Cleaver doesn't benefit that at all.
wat
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 17:10:25
November 24 2012 17:09 GMT
#565
On November 24 2012 23:53 Curu wrote:
I think Jax is going to see some nerfs in the future. He's developing the same sort of problem as pre-nerf Jayce. Pre-nerf Jayce beat everyone in lane and outscaled most toplaners whereas Jax beats most toplaners and outscales everyone. Right now Jax has an absolute advantage in scaling and a comparative advantage in laning.

Personally I think a good change would be to put duration scaling on his E. 1 second of dodge at level 1 scaling to 2 seconds when maxed like Irelia's stun/slow.


shh!
im having too much fun with him


also im still not sure he is nerfworthy. there is always going to be a champ or small group of champs that stand out as the best and one of those is jax. it's not as bad as pre-nerf jayce tbh. pre-nerf jayce was nearly unbeatable and basically ungankable.


oh hey do u guys really think nashors triforce jax is better to aim for than gunblade triforce..?
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3239 Posts
November 24 2012 17:46 GMT
#566
On November 25 2012 02:09 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 23:53 Curu wrote:
I think Jax is going to see some nerfs in the future. He's developing the same sort of problem as pre-nerf Jayce. Pre-nerf Jayce beat everyone in lane and outscaled most toplaners whereas Jax beats most toplaners and outscales everyone. Right now Jax has an absolute advantage in scaling and a comparative advantage in laning.

Personally I think a good change would be to put duration scaling on his E. 1 second of dodge at level 1 scaling to 2 seconds when maxed like Irelia's stun/slow.


shh!
im having too much fun with him


also im still not sure he is nerfworthy. there is always going to be a champ or small group of champs that stand out as the best and one of those is jax. it's not as bad as pre-nerf jayce tbh. pre-nerf jayce was nearly unbeatable and basically ungankable.


oh hey do u guys really think nashors triforce jax is better to aim for than gunblade triforce..?


yeah, i love it. boots-> 1/2 dorans-> phage->sheen-> stinger-> triforce-> ga/nashor. king
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 24 2012 17:48 GMT
#567
I honestly don't think Jax even really needs more offensive items on top if trinity. But I've been seeing wings just sit on a vamp scepter during laning and building nashors after trinity if he gets really fed. It seems super strong but idk if it's completely because the item just synergizes really well with Jax or if it's just because wings is always fed when he builds it.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 24 2012 18:10 GMT
#568
as long has jax has his 2 second dodge he's going to be too strong imo
it helps that he literally outtrades everybody around levels 6 and even before then his auto w auto and stun are really good traders. he supports ganks so well, too. late game he's so beast
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
November 24 2012 18:16 GMT
#569
hexdrinker ftw O_o
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 18:40:43
November 24 2012 18:39 GMT
#570
On November 25 2012 02:09 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 23:53 Curu wrote:
I think Jax is going to see some nerfs in the future. He's developing the same sort of problem as pre-nerf Jayce. Pre-nerf Jayce beat everyone in lane and outscaled most toplaners whereas Jax beats most toplaners and outscales everyone. Right now Jax has an absolute advantage in scaling and a comparative advantage in laning.

Personally I think a good change would be to put duration scaling on his E. 1 second of dodge at level 1 scaling to 2 seconds when maxed like Irelia's stun/slow.


shh!
im having too much fun with him


also im still not sure he is nerfworthy. there is always going to be a champ or small group of champs that stand out as the best and one of those is jax. it's not as bad as pre-nerf jayce tbh. pre-nerf jayce was nearly unbeatable and basically ungankable.


oh hey do u guys really think nashors triforce jax is better to aim for than gunblade triforce..?


He definitely isn't as bad as pre-nerf Jayce but he is in need of some tweaking. He straight up out lanes most top laners (granted not on the same level that Jayce used to) and even his less favourable matchups are more or less even. Add onto that the fact that he's got by far the strongest late game scaling and he's pushing into OP territory.

It is true that there is always a top tier but Jax's top tier is too much above the rest IMO. Irelia is a good example of a hero that is top tier without being broken. She's got great mobility and scales very well but gets shit on by many toplaners in her early levels. There are many matchups that are nightmares for her (Jax is one of them, he's stronger at levels 1-4, weaker at level 5, and then just crushes her post 6 and outscales her) but she can trade that off for a stronger scaling into mid and late game. She gets beat early in return for beating you later. She fits well into almost any team comp but you'll be hesitant to first pick her cause the enemy can give her a real rough time with someone like Jax or Darius.

Jax on the other hand beats you early and then brutally rapes you with his lamppost no lube style late. He fits well into almost any team comp and there's no drawback to first picking him, almost nothing gives him a real rough time in lane (and he massively outscales anything that can go even with him/beat him).

I don't think he needs any major changes like what Ezreal and Jayce went through but I definitely think something needs to be done to tone down his power at some point in the game. He's a top 5 laner with the absolute best late game.
wat
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
November 24 2012 21:47 GMT
#571
So. I was just playing on the PBE, and for some reason I had a Shen in my game that wanted to delay the win until he could solo Baron...

Anyways, I was sitting on six items as Jax and wanted to try something new so I built that Hyrda thing that builds from Tiamat.

Holy. Shit. That has to be the most broken item/champ combo ever.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
November 24 2012 21:55 GMT
#572
On November 25 2012 02:09 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 23:53 Curu wrote:
I think Jax is going to see some nerfs in the future. He's developing the same sort of problem as pre-nerf Jayce. Pre-nerf Jayce beat everyone in lane and outscaled most toplaners whereas Jax beats most toplaners and outscales everyone. Right now Jax has an absolute advantage in scaling and a comparative advantage in laning.

Personally I think a good change would be to put duration scaling on his E. 1 second of dodge at level 1 scaling to 2 seconds when maxed like Irelia's stun/slow.


shh!
im having too much fun with him


also im still not sure he is nerfworthy. there is always going to be a champ or small group of champs that stand out as the best and one of those is jax. it's not as bad as pre-nerf jayce tbh. pre-nerf jayce was nearly unbeatable and basically ungankable.


oh hey do u guys really think nashors triforce jax is better to aim for than gunblade triforce..?

stinger is good but finishing nashors is a waste.
GANDHISAUCE
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 24 2012 22:05 GMT
#573
I am pretty sure a Rioter mentioned that Jax may receive a nerf. So will Irelia.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 24 2012 22:33 GMT
#574
Morello said he will maybe nerf irelia but I've seen nothing about a jax nerf. Also nashor's isn't a waste, you usually buy it when you already have 3-4 items and by that point slot efficiency is a big deal
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
November 25 2012 06:36 GMT
#575
How do you rune/mastery jax? The OP is outdated.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
November 25 2012 07:03 GMT
#576
On November 25 2012 15:36 nosliw wrote:
How do you rune/mastery jax? The OP is outdated.


AD/AD/Armor/MrLvl

21/9 or 30/0/0 if you feel like going balls out.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 25 2012 07:34 GMT
#577
I think 9/14/7 is more common?
cool beans
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 10:10:16
November 25 2012 07:40 GMT
#578
defense tree 21+
i like offense tree at least for the 4% faster swing i run 9/21/0
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 25 2012 07:42 GMT
#579
On November 25 2012 07:33 OutlaW- wrote:
Morello said he will maybe nerf irelia but I've seen nothing about a jax nerf. Also nashor's isn't a waste, you usually buy it when you already have 3-4 items and by that point slot efficiency is a big deal


It wasn't Morello. It was someone else talking about how Jax is OP.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
November 25 2012 08:01 GMT
#580
21/9 - against lanes that are primarily farm lanes with low amounts of harassment. (Minion damage is blocked by counterstrike but it's still somewhat risky IMO)
9/14/7 - in most cases the safest path. Mana for lane sustain, minion damage + general damage reductions and all the important points in offense.
9/21 - Weaker in lane until you have your ultimate to trade with and enough mana to actually do stuff, somewhat better after triforce is built.
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