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anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
March 22 2012 04:20 GMT
#261
So did the changes actually affect how you build jax? Specifically asking USnip since you seem to have played jax most among all the TL people, but anyone is free to chime in with advice.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Noheroes
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada19 Posts
March 22 2012 04:37 GMT
#262
Man I've had nothing but amazing results with Jax. I've gone 7-0 since buff in ranked games at 1400 elo albeit but he is a dominant top laner now and great in teamfights. The resistances really add up and he is really build versatile. The first thing I always rush is gunblade - The slow and 300 dmg nuke is super strong early game with Jax. From there, build against your opponents offensively. For instance, I was vs. Fiora top lane and Leblanc mid was fed on opposing team. So my build went Gunblade, Tabi, Guinsoo's, Rylai's. Since his MR scales well with AP (With stacked rageblade I was getting +89 MR for 8 seconds, which is HUGE).

Finding him Fantastic.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
March 22 2012 06:42 GMT
#263
Just played jax a few games for the first time since patch. Actually seems really nice, but i can't really get my head around how to build him. Mass AD/AP for defense during ulti is so squishy when ulti is down. Need health from some source, need a bit of armor/mres outside of ult, need AD/AP. There are just too many items that are kind of useful on jax :O
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 23 2012 02:30 GMT
#264
On March 22 2012 13:20 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
So did the changes actually affect how you build jax? Specifically asking USnip since you seem to have played jax most among all the TL people, but anyone is free to chime in with advice.


Only played a couple games with him since the patch, I dunno. Seriously doubt the build I was using last patch is any good though.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
March 23 2012 04:14 GMT
#265
If I am seeing right your build is wriggles/dblades, wits, rylais?

I think that is probably the best standard build. My only change would be to go phage before rylais, then turn that into a triforce eventually.

Honestly jax does so much base damage I am considering a heavier tank build. something like wriggles, wits, warmogs. Can't imagine every getting away from a wriggles wits opening though.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
March 23 2012 04:29 GMT
#266
Opinion about wriggles->rageblade instead of wriggles->wit's?
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 23 2012 12:15 GMT
#267
On March 23 2012 13:29 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Opinion about wriggles->rageblade instead of wriggles->wit's?

Much better with his current ultimate, at least in my opinion. I'm really torn, not sure how to build new Jax either. I've been going Wriggle's -> Rageblade -> Rylai's, but that was just a testrun. I really feel like he needs some way to stick to people and Rylai's is pretty neat for that purpose.
currently rooting for myself.
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
March 23 2012 14:02 GMT
#268
On March 23 2012 21:15 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 13:29 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Opinion about wriggles->rageblade instead of wriggles->wit's?

Much better with his current ultimate, at least in my opinion. I'm really torn, not sure how to build new Jax either. I've been going Wriggle's -> Rageblade -> Rylai's, but that was just a testrun. I really feel like he needs some way to stick to people and Rylai's is pretty neat for that purpose.


Even before his remake I wasnt a big fan of rageblade and I stll dont like it much. jax is fairly bursty since there is no one who is just going to stand there and trade autos with you. Hence charging it up is difficult.

Rylais is a fantastic item on him (def better than FM) but I never know the right time to get it because it is so darn expensive.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 23 2012 15:12 GMT
#269
On March 23 2012 23:02 petered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 21:15 Shiv. wrote:
On March 23 2012 13:29 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Opinion about wriggles->rageblade instead of wriggles->wit's?

Much better with his current ultimate, at least in my opinion. I'm really torn, not sure how to build new Jax either. I've been going Wriggle's -> Rageblade -> Rylai's, but that was just a testrun. I really feel like he needs some way to stick to people and Rylai's is pretty neat for that purpose.


Even before his remake I wasnt a big fan of rageblade and I stll dont like it much. jax is fairly bursty since there is no one who is just going to stand there and trade autos with you. Hence charging it up is difficult.

Rylais is a fantastic item on him (def better than FM) but I never know the right time to get it because it is so darn expensive.

Rageblade synergizes really well with his new ultimate (and the passive), though. I've never been a big fan of it either, but after these current remakes, I think it's remarkably strong. It's still the most cost-efficient item in the game, after all. (IIRC).
currently rooting for myself.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 23 2012 22:03 GMT
#270
rageblade has awful synergy with his passive lol. they both hit max stacks at the same time so neither of them helps charge up the other.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
March 24 2012 04:53 GMT
#271
Yea that's the problem, the first few stacks take a LOT of time to get going. And everyone runs from you when you are swinging that giant lamppost in their face anyways QQ
Tbh, jax is a strong enough duelist with any balanced combination of offence+defence items. The more important part of learning him is to figure out how to actually play his laning phase.

Can you post a couple of your replays from last patch if you have them USnip? Cuz I have NO idea how to play him in lane.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 04:30:24
March 25 2012 04:30 GMT
#272
No I don't have lol replay. If you have a US account we can play some games and I'll just show you what I was doing, I'm not a super great player or anything so don't expect to be blown away but I have a solid idea of what to do in lane with him.

as of previous patch
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
March 25 2012 11:54 GMT
#273
I'm rather new to this game and I find that starting off the game is really hard. And guides are so different
Dead girls don't say no.
sas01
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada303 Posts
March 25 2012 13:02 GMT
#274
ya i find jax early game is where he is weakest.. just have to wait till lvl6 till u start doing lots of dmg!
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
March 25 2012 19:10 GMT
#275
On March 25 2012 22:02 sas01 wrote:
ya i find jax early game is where he is weakest.. just have to wait till lvl6 till u start doing lots of dmg!


He definitely jumps in power at 6, but he can trade very well pre 6 vs certain champs.

Voyboy playing jax vs irelia right now in ggchronicle. I'm interested to see his build. i know voy likes to play pretty aggressive.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
March 25 2012 21:00 GMT
#276
On March 26 2012 04:10 petered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 22:02 sas01 wrote:
ya i find jax early game is where he is weakest.. just have to wait till lvl6 till u start doing lots of dmg!


He definitely jumps in power at 6, but he can trade very well pre 6 vs certain champs.

Voyboy playing jax vs irelia right now in ggchronicle. I'm interested to see his build. i know voy likes to play pretty aggressive.


Missed that How did he do? What build was he using?
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
March 25 2012 21:05 GMT
#277
trinity force (sheen first) into gunblade
the game was pretty faceroll in general, but sheen rush does seem strong on jax as his w combined with sheen is insane burst / relatively cheap mana cost wise
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mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 25 2012 21:27 GMT
#278
Do the defensive stats scale during the ult if you hold a rageblade ?
The legend of Darien lives on
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
March 25 2012 21:48 GMT
#279
On March 26 2012 06:05 Navi wrote:
trinity force (sheen first) into gunblade
the game was pretty faceroll in general, but sheen rush does seem strong on jax as his w combined with sheen is insane burst / relatively cheap mana cost wise


To be fair, though, Voy already had gotten a big advantage in lane early before the sheen rush. Then he grabbed vamp scepter and a sheen. He got soloed by the irelia when he was up a kill and 10-15cs, he then got a double kill due to a terrible tower dive. Personally I don't think the sheen rush was a great move, but it is crazy damage so I can see it working.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 23:00:45
March 25 2012 23:00 GMT
#280
On March 26 2012 06:27 mr_tolkien wrote:
Do the defensive stats scale during the ult if you hold a rageblade ?

Pretty sure that they don't, they only scale of your ap/ad at the moment of activation.

Either way, I think it is deceptive to say jax scales well defensively with ap/ad because of his ult. Look at the numbers, they are pretty bad. With a fully stacked rageblade you get 10.5 armor and 18.6 magic resist for 8 seconds, and I doubt you will be fully stacked since if you went for a fairly early rageblade then you need to pop ult just to keep from being blown up. The base numbers on ult are good enough to not build around the scaling portion.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
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