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Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
April 30 2012 07:31 GMT
#121
The current trend is going for gunblade.
I usually mix in a chainvest or a negatron after the cutlass. You could build shurelias after this, but chances are that someone else has it, and you are better off going for damage (BF sword item) or improved defense (upgrade chainvest/negatron).
Go try StarBow on the Arcade. TL thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440661
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 30 2012 09:02 GMT
#122
Philo->Sheen/Phage->Triforce->Cutlass->Gunblade

After that you get some tank items. The thing is tho, with Poppy, you don't really need that much survivability items early on due to your W, your ult, and your imba passive.
Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada967 Posts
March 21 2013 10:48 GMT
#123
I am just curious on about why Poppy isnt played more often (both in laning and teamfights). I am kinda interested in testing some builds out with her, tho i never played her before
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h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-21 12:31:53
March 21 2013 12:31 GMT
#124
No sustain with high mana costs and no pushing power means she has a really hard laning phase. In teamfights she is good, her ult is absurd and she scales ridiculously well. It's just very hard to get her there.

I'm a goliath.
Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
March 21 2013 13:26 GMT
#125
"really hard laning phase"
Depends on the enemy Top, if you're facing a Trynd, Gp, Rengar etc, then a good poppy will faceroll and snowball like no tomorrow. Armorrunepage op.

Against AP-champs she has a much harder time, laning against Rumble, Akali, Teemo, etc is absolutely no fun.

Most matchups are skillbased, my favourite Matchups are Olaf (you have to get a big lead very early or he will rape you), Kha (50/50) and Nasus (Farmfest aka who can carry harder lategame?)

Even in the current health-stacking meta a farmed Poppy is able to kill the enemy adc in 9 out of 10 teamfights. That Ult...
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
March 26 2013 11:27 GMT
#126
How to learn poppy :|

Bots don't teach me anything, don't want to ruin ranked games with it, 2 of 5 people in normals spam TOP TOP TOP while 2 others instalock toplaners and all of them call me out for trolling when i pick poppy :|
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
March 26 2013 11:41 GMT
#127
Could try her out on dominion, should at least get you familiar with her abilities and how to fight effectively on her. She's stronger on Dominion too, as it circumvents many of her weaknesses (mana, pushing power, farm)

Just don't run her as the bot "laner" on dominion.
Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 14:25:00
March 26 2013 14:18 GMT
#128
On March 26 2013 20:27 snow2.0 wrote:
How to learn poppy :|

Bots don't teach me anything, don't want to ruin ranked games with it, 2 of 5 people in normals spam TOP TOP TOP while 2 others instalock toplaners and all of them call me out for trolling when i pick poppy :|

Get some Friends to play normals with you, or get someone to play 1v1 customs until you feel confident enough to play rankeds.
You're german, so i believe you are on EUW. Just add me (EdoftheDead) when you need someone to play with. (But i'm awful :D)
Play 1-2 Botgames first, so you can get a feeling for her attackanimation, when you can safely towerdive, where to freeze the lane at your tower etc.
Pamposek
Profile Joined April 2011
Czech Republic56 Posts
March 26 2013 16:24 GMT
#129
On March 26 2013 23:18 Sareth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 20:27 snow2.0 wrote:
How to learn poppy :|

Bots don't teach me anything, don't want to ruin ranked games with it, 2 of 5 people in normals spam TOP TOP TOP while 2 others instalock toplaners and all of them call me out for trolling when i pick poppy :|

Get some Friends to play normals with you, or get someone to play 1v1 customs until you feel confident enough to play rankeds.
You're german, so i believe you are on EUW. Just add me (EdoftheDead) when you need someone to play with. (But i'm awful :D)
Play 1-2 Botgames first, so you can get a feeling for her attackanimation, when you can safely towerdive, where to freeze the lane at your tower etc.


Better try dominion then playing botgames. Sure it's without laning part, but you get used to her skills, when and how to use them, then play normal.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 30 2013 02:37 GMT
#130
Just started playing Poppy a bit and have been having some pretty good times. What's good to build on her besides triforce and maybe philo stone?
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 30 2013 05:17 GMT
#131
On April 30 2013 11:37 GolemMadness wrote:
Just started playing Poppy a bit and have been having some pretty good times. What's good to build on her besides triforce and maybe philo stone?

Gunblade/Bork can be nice as it gives you more sticking power. On the defensive side, FH is a decent pickup.

Generally speaking, you want 1-2 offensive items then just tank up. Between your passive+ult+tanky items you can literally 1v5 past a certain point.
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
April 30 2013 09:33 GMT
#132
Zekent has pioneered a great top lane build with an early philo/health item depending on your lane building into sheen or phage and boots. Finish TF and build either cutlass or Shurelias depending on your needs for sticking power, disengage and infight sustain. Make sure you get both Shurelias and the upgraded cutlass if you get that much gold.

Basically: your preferred opening - philo/kindlegem/armor item - sheen/phage - phage/sheen - TF - Shurelias/cutlass - cutlass/Shurelias - GB/BoTRK/Defensive items

Some games you might be able to get an IE or similar to supercharge your damage after this build, but don't expect to get this far.
Go try StarBow on the Arcade. TL thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440661
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
February 04 2014 06:53 GMT
#133
OK I started playing poppy randomly on my smurf, and she feels so strong in some situations, and so garbage in others.

What should I use as a general build? Trinity/botrk, or should I go for gunblade? I've been running flash but ghost feels mandatory as I can't stick to people without it.

Good/bad matchups? I know she can struggle vs champs who do true damage but what others does she have? Is she good vs any of the current fotm?
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 04 2014 08:02 GMT
#134
if you really want to be silly, run her dfg+lichbane and literally oneshot everyone
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
February 05 2014 00:42 GMT
#135
Poppy also has problems against champs with DoTs, since those will mostly bypass her damage reduction. In particular, Singed and Teemo are absolutely terrible to face. Shyvana too.
Poppy lanes best against high-burst champs, though she doesn't appreciate taking free autoattack harass and most mages are ranged.

Cleanse is an option to consider, as Poppy really hates ignite; the problem is Flash and Ghost are both really good as well.
I think with DFG as it currently is, AP Poppy is the way to go, since you're guaranteed to truck at least one person before they can make a meaningful contribution to the fight. I think AD Poppy should get Tiamat/Hydra first for farming power, but I'm open to being disagreed with. Hybrid Poppy has been trashcans since the Sextech Funblade nerf..
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LilCiggy
Profile Joined August 2012
64 Posts
February 05 2014 17:44 GMT
#136
In the current meta Poppy is a bit of a difficult champion (as usual) to play in my opinion. I actually usually start 2bead/pots on her and my first item rush is either a cowl or a mail/shroud depending on whether Im against an AP, AD/bruiser or AD/autoattacker. My reasoning behind this is unless I'm a hard counter against someone, I'm not looking to trade or go for kills in lane phase, Im just looking to farm while taking as little harass as possible. The only time I'm looking to play SUPER aggressive or initiate anything is when the gank comes. I agree with Tooplark about building tiamat and hydra as first offensive weapon, and I'm for the ghost/ignite combo rather than flash. Second item should be a Trinity Force because she makes use of all of the stats it offers and makes her combo pack a solid punch. Then, depending on the stage the game is at, I like grabbing Banshees Veil if I got a Cowl(if teamfighting and objective securing is the focus at this point -- Poppy needs to stick to her targets and Veil makes this a lot easier), or an IBG, or IE for more damage if you're really getting fed somehow. I like Treads for boots in almost every situation unless they're running an AD jungle/mid, or both, in which case Tabi is sometimes better. From there, you can either pick up a Shiv (overkill with Hydra? depends on how far your lanes are pushed) or grab botrk which makes your dueling even better.

My two poppy cents.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
February 05 2014 17:57 GMT
#137
You can run her in the jungle, at least you will avoid her horrible horrible laning phase. She has more than decent ganks but meh clear but with the current jungle items anyone can clear decently after some point. Since you're poppy you don't really need to build tanky and can rush triforce which is really good on her.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
February 05 2014 18:30 GMT
#138
On February 06 2014 02:57 RouaF wrote:
You can run her in the jungle, at least you will avoid her horrible horrible laning phase. She has more than decent ganks but meh clear but with the current jungle items anyone can clear decently after some point. Since you're poppy you don't really need to build tanky and can rush triforce which is really good on her.

I've always found the problem with jungle Poppy is you can't afford all the items you need to be a real threat. You're really dependent on a few particular items (DFG Lichbane for AP, Hydra Triforce for AD) and even with boosted jungle farm you just can't afford it all in a reasonable timeframe.
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 11:09:04
February 06 2014 11:00 GMT
#139
On February 06 2014 02:57 RouaF wrote:
You can run her in the jungle, at least you will avoid her horrible horrible laning phase. She has more than decent ganks but meh clear but with the current jungle items anyone can clear decently after some point. Since you're poppy you don't really need to build tanky and can rush triforce which is really good on her.


I think some of you are missing the point with poppy. She is not a top or jungle champion, but mid. I went 20-5 or something with her as mid in diamond elo and it is a hundred times easier than trying to survive top (banning out ori when I could, the shield is annoying). Jungle isn't very good either due to several reasons, but some of them might have changed this season. And even if you build pure AD on poppy, her damage is about 70% magical so you're basically an AP carry anyway.
You might say she gets bullied pre6 and yes she somewhat does, but her passive, w and the 440 shield is more than enough to stay in lane. As soon as you can afford sheen (sometimes hexd) and is lvl6, no ap mid champion can bully you anymore (if they have under 80% hp at any point they WILL die to one burst).
I admit some games were won due to misjudgments where you run low and they 2v1 dive you and you get double kill, it happened mostly because people weren't used to playing against poppy. But even if those situations doesn't occur and their mid play defensive you will be relatively fat into mid game, and fat poppy midgame is almost autowin.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 23 2015 01:13 GMT
#140
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2wpvap/a_sionlevel_remake_is_planned_for_poppy_we_are/

I'm usually really afraid of the whole "warning this post is 3 months old, if you bump, we'll ban you" or the whole "anything you post in a champion thread is here forever and will hurt newbs" spiel, but w/e.

Poppy rework incoming eventually (tm).

She's going to lose her ult and get turned into a tank.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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