• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:55
CEST 15:55
KST 22:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall8HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6
Community News
Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL44Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?12FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event16Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster16Weekly Cups (June 16-22): Clem strikes back1
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Statistics for vetoed/disliked maps Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series [GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Semi Finals & Finals $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event HomeStory Cup 27 (June 27-29)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady
Brood War
General
Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Help: rep cant save
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL20] ProLeague LB Final - Saturday 20:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Blogs
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
Game Sound vs. Music: The Im…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 587 users

[Champion] Poppy - Page 8

Forum Index > LoL Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 All
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 21:16:00
February 23 2015 18:10 GMT
#141
Also I think Poppy's Q no longer converts triforce damage to be magic. I just tested it on krugs and I kept getting this red number and purple number when I attacked them.

Do you always target the support with your ult? I feel like I'm often wasting the 20-40% extra damage but when I ulted an Annie with like 80% life remaining on me, she bursted me down from full using ignite to get through my passive.

Also I'm not sure about like a frozen mallet rush. I feel like often there are people getting away from me after botrk/the catalyst item slow, but mallet lets me chase forever.

With regards to builds do you just always get armor or mr and not much of the other, so eg. you build armor, ult their ADC and then can only take damage from that ADC until your ult goes away?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-14 04:11:01
March 14 2015 04:10 GMT
#142
So I've finished my 10 ranked/normal games as Poppy and I have some notes I'd like to make at least from what I've learned. I know my playstyle is different, I'm bad, and even top players tend to disagree. The top 3 top lane poppy guides on lolking are from 2k elo + players and they disagree on things like matchups. There's always people who'll say "Tryn counters Teemo" or "Poppy vs Rumble ez lane for Poppy"

    Playstyle
  • R>Q>E>W. W might be better than E, but Idk, sometimes you can stun people a few times in a row. Get your first point in Q if you might trade. By level 3 you should have all your abilities. It's better harass than W even though W is 15 armor and AD at level 1.
  • Poppy's regular abilities suck. Q literally scales by 20 damage. W by 5 damage/armor. If it stacks to full before you fight. E scales by 25 damage. But if people are stupid you can still outtrade them in lane by slamming them into walls or into your tower/tower range. Everyone says Poppy's Q is great since you can deal a ton of damage with it, it's only 8% of a target's health and on a 4 second cooldown + 100 damage. Malz W is 8%/second for 5 seconds. In an AOE. Jayce's melee E is a 20% max mana with a longer range and a knockback. And he doesn't even max that shit first. Sejuani does 12% of her own max health in an AoE on top of 160 damage. Even fucking Olaf can E a Poppy without getting in range for Poppy to Q him. And you'll see the Olaf matchup often because Poppy's passive doesn't block true damage. You'll often have to play safer in lane and wait for your opportunities.
  • Poppy relies on her ult. Once she gets in teamfights I feel like she's a lot stronger.
  • Because everyone knows what Poppy's passive does, or they looked up the matchup in a guide, they often run ignite vs Poppy. You can't reduce true damage. To play teleport vs ignite, you have to play around the ignite, back off before you're forced into an allin where you can die, then tp back to lane with more health than them. Abuse the fact you can split push often later game and still join fights with TP.
  • Even if you can't E someone into a wall, you can use it to gapclose just to trade. Be mindful of minions. And in teamfights be mindful of pushing someone to safety.
  • Try not to use your W in lane unless you absolutely have to. The active costs too much mana. Eventually once Poppy gets a mana item or her natural mana pool scales up she's fine. A mana pot early is great too.

    Itemization
  • Contrary to popular opinion, I don't think Triforce is necessary. It's great on champs that don't have much AD/AP scaling but have a little of both, need some mana, and can make use of the bonus movement speed. The bonus movement speed just isn't enough to stick to anyone. And Poppy's Q no longer converts triforce to magic. Her Q isn't even on that short of a cooldown. It's fine to get it as a first item every game. It's also fine to skip it.
  • I think BotRK is just as good if not better. It gives more dps and I prefer slows to MS. Heck wit's is even defensible as a first item against AP for the extra dps for its cost and mpen.
  • Shields from locket, and maw make sense on paper since you get low, pop a shield, and then are able to block a ton more damage with your passive since your passive works on health, and not shields, but the items don't seem that great because they don't let you stick to people. It makes more sense to get them if you're having trouble surviving magic burst or want to help your team. Heck I'm sure people have tried barrier Poppy.
  • As shitty as Poppy's Q is compared to other champion's abilities, it's still at least a third of her damage (in end game charts), and getting CDR will help her use it and your E and R more often.
  • Contrary to popular belief, I don't think poppy's useless built like a bruiser. I think she makes a terrible tank, but tank stats in lane can help her survive laning phase, and after her ulted target dies, she becomes vulnerable herself if she's too squishy. You've still got to contribute while your ult is down. Just because armor and health aren't synergistic with your passive doesn't mean you can't buy them. An early FH is great against physical poke, but the CDR definitely isn't much in terms of combat stats compared to like Sunfire. I haven't tried randuins. One great thing about poppy is that you can focus on one resist and just ult people who deal that type of damage.
  • Always start flask. I've been running TP so I don't all in unless I severely outplay someone or they're running TP too and I think I can beat them.

    Who to ult in teamfights
  • You ult the lowest damage threat if you're worried about dying and just need to prevent damage. Their support can exhaust you but then they've blown exhaust.
  • You ult the target you can kill for the extra damage if you think you can kill them 1v1. If they flash over a wall you probably can't chase them so just start hitting something else close by.
  • Often time you'll ult your lane opponent because you've likely built to counter them. Eg. armor vs AD, or MR vs AP. If you built armor you can ult the enemy AD carry, if you built MR you can ult the enemy AP mid.
    People are idiots and will hit you even when your ult is up on someone else.
  • You can bait someone into throwing a skillshot at you, then eat it by ulting someone else just to remove that skill from the fight.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Prev 1 6 7 8 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 5m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 532
Lowko401
ProTech64
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 47581
Rain 5383
Sea 3459
Jaedong 1746
EffOrt 1053
BeSt 476
Larva 458
actioN 376
Stork 371
ZerO 316
[ Show more ]
ToSsGirL 282
Mini 254
Snow 217
Killer 176
Light 167
hero 97
Mong 79
Sharp 76
Shinee 58
Pusan 47
Mind 44
Sea.KH 43
Nal_rA 42
Rush 38
sSak 32
PianO 29
Noble 20
ajuk12(nOOB) 20
JulyZerg 15
yabsab 15
GoRush 14
Terrorterran 14
Movie 13
soO 10
Sacsri 10
sorry 9
SilentControl 8
IntoTheRainbow 8
Dota 2
qojqva3242
XcaliburYe363
Counter-Strike
oskar268
byalli246
kRYSTAL_23
markeloff6
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King134
Other Games
hiko985
B2W.Neo948
DeMusliM714
crisheroes345
Happy228
ArmadaUGS88
KnowMe42
QueenE37
ZerO(Twitch)23
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 54
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis7868
• TFBlade609
Upcoming Events
WardiTV European League
2h 5m
ByuN vs NightPhoenix
HeRoMaRinE vs HiGhDrA
Krystianer vs sebesdes
MaxPax vs Babymarine
SKillous vs Mixu
ShoWTimE vs MaNa
Replay Cast
10h 5m
RSL Revival
20h 5m
herO vs SHIN
Reynor vs Cure
OSC
23h 5m
WardiTV European League
1d 2h
Scarlett vs Percival
Jumy vs ArT
YoungYakov vs Shameless
uThermal vs Fjant
Nicoract vs goblin
Harstem vs Gerald
FEL
1d 2h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 13h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 20h
RSL Revival
1d 20h
FEL
2 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
FEL
2 days
BSL: ProLeague
3 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-28
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.