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TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
December 18 2010 04:35 GMT
#41
Uh, regrowth pendant into philo stone is pretty much troll game material. Just open Doran's Blade and go into Manamune Triforce if you like that style.
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
December 18 2010 04:41 GMT
#42
kee dokey, its good for mid cuz it give you survivability imo and you can poke and poke until 6 then you'll have full health when they're half and you can force them out or kill them

at least that was the logic i found, but i'll go doran manamune triforce most likely
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TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
December 18 2010 04:45 GMT
#43
No, you get more survivability from a Doran's Blade/Shield. If you have trouble in the laning phase you might want to consider speccing for strength of spirit or even 21 defense.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
December 18 2010 07:59 GMT
#44
swifties is up to you i guess, but i find that with valkyrie i have no problem with early game positioning (if u take flash with it its like 1300 safe range lols) and with triforce later game in fights i have no problem using valk to get to a good spot. sure swifties might help a little in ganks but if you use valkyrie right it shouldn't be too big of a problem.

as for philo getting extra ad on your dorans blade and using that ad to harass the enemy + using its lifesteal will help you more in lane even game early than a regen would imo

and as for using it to stay at full health until 6 or w/e
if you're against something gay like pantheon it doesn't matter
if you're against a skilled opponent who is willing to sacrifice a few cs to have u burn ur mana pool it won't matter
and if you're against a opponent who can farm with spells it doesn't matter

too many of these overlap and or they cover too many champions to support that kinda play

the only reason it works for mordekaiser is because of its synergy with his passive, corki has no such thing
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
December 19 2010 04:36 GMT
#45
wut's corki's passive anyways. O_o
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TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
December 19 2010 04:42 GMT
#46
Bonus 10% true damage to autoattacks.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 19 2010 16:35 GMT
#47
On December 19 2010 13:42 TieN.nS) wrote:
Bonus 10% true damage to autoattacks.


lolwtf, why didnt i know that....

i feel like i know so few champ passives for some reason ~.~
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TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
December 19 2010 17:29 GMT
#48
Yep Corki's passive is pretty strong. I really just know the passives for the champs that I play and the ones that are really unique, like Poppy's.
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
December 26 2010 02:24 GMT
#49
What do people think of dblade, boots, dblade, dblade, manamune, LW on Corki?
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
December 26 2010 03:32 GMT
#50
I am fine with opening dblade on corki because its bonuses (HP ad and lifesteal) allow him to keep up with those pesky doran's whoring heroes (pretty much everybody). I don't see the need to dblade stack on him as I would on somebody like fortune or tristana because the main damage skill I use in trades and pokes (q) does not scale with any of the stats dorans gives, unlike tristana or fortune. i find that getting a fast tear instead of two dorans blades is more beneficial because corki's spells' base damage is stupid good and that even with full mp5 he struggles with mana problems throughout the entire game without blue or manamune. my ideal first b would be boots + tear + 1 or 2 wards and 1 or 2 pots as depending on whether i am solo top or mid. with SoS and several HP pots i don't find HP an issue.

LW flat AD and passive is nice as it is on any other hero who has a fairly good portion of his damage from autoattacks, but I wouldn't rush it after manamune on corki because honestly until the lategame the majority of his damage in teamfights comes from his spells (qer), and while e is physical damage rather than LW corki would benefit more from a sheen + two triforce components than he would from LW. my favored path of items is dblade -> tear -> boots1 -> manamune -> sheen / mercs -> one that was finished -> negatron / cata if needed more than damage at that point, if not finish phage and zeal as desired -> triforce -> LW -> BT or whatever.
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JonsaBoy
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Denmark457 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-26 21:07:05
December 26 2010 21:01 GMT
#51
My Corki experience (1300-1400 player right now, so don't take this too seriously):

I run apen reds, armor yellow, mp5 blues and health quints (thinking of exchanging these for movespeed or apen)

Q-W-Q-E-Q-R then R>Q>E>W

Dorans Blade + pot is best. If you think you'll have a really hard time in lane, you can open shield, but I don't recommend it.

Manamune is a must. Corki is so mana intensive that you really, really need the regen, and since you spam rockets so much, your mana pool goes up fast. If the lane is easy, I'll stay in lane until i can get manamune + boots, then b. Usually this isn't the case and I end up back in base buying a tear + boots + pot and ward. Some people tell me to skip the ward and save it for more damage, but i like wards. Finish manamune, then:

Second tier boots. Usually you'll be getting mercury threads, but if you aren't against a cc heavy team, boots of swiftness are great because Corki has so low base movespeed now. You can also get zerkers, but i don't recommend it. I find the two others to be more useful.

At this point, I find you have two choices: Getting sheen and building that into Triforce, or my personal favorite: a bloodthirster. Both are viable choices imo, each with their pros and cons. Corki is extremely spammy by nature, so its easy to get at least 5-6 triforce procs in a single fight, resulting in amazing damage, and the other bonuses from Triforce are just icing on the cake. However apart from the 30 damage(?) Triforce has, it doesn't have much synergy with E or Corkis passive, which is where bloodthirster comes in. With bloodthirster, your E does INSANE damage in AoE, and you have lots of true damage from your passive. Your missiles do pretty nice damage now that they have an AD ratio, too. (Something tells me I'm very wrong that bloodthirster is a viable option compared to triforce, but I really like thirster a lot more.)

Either way, after these items you probably want some survivability. My usual picks are veil or quicksilver sash, maybe together with a chain vest.

After this, just keep adapting to the game. You should probably add more damage, or you can add more survivability items if you don't need more damage (BUT YOU ALWAYS NEED MORE DAMAGE AMIRITE). Last whisper is a generally solid item, but remember that you shred a LOT of armor with E (60 max at level 5?), and since i run armor pen reds, they need a LOT of armor for it to be worth it. Since they changed it to give more attack damage, its gotten a lot better for Corki. If you're feeling like fooling around, try stuff like a Black Cleaver and Starks (arpen reds + E + cleaver debuff + starks = LULZ)

About 3 doran blades: I think this is pretty good on most other carries, but i REALLY don't like it on Corki. I feel it slows down that core manamune too much, and I'd actually much rather have parts of manamune than a pair of dorans extra, just because Corki is SO mana intensive, and dorans aren't gonna help you stay in lane if you don't have mana, anyways. Most of your damage in this period comes from pokes with Q and R, and both of those are really mana intensive.

Phew, this got long fast, wasn't supposed to be a guide :p
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Stealthpenguin
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland393 Posts
January 28 2011 12:20 GMT
#52
Can someone give me tips on how to lane against kassadin. If he pokes with q all I can get in is an auto. The silence is the big problem, I just get whittled down and then I have to b at lvl 5 or I get dove when he hits 6. To make it worse kassadins at my elo often take clarity or teleport so they can spam q at low levels all they want. Basically I'm asking what to do against silencers with corki.

Also am I not spamming my missiles enough since I never build manamune anymore, it feels like an item that's useless if you can manage without the mana regen. An earlier sheen seems so much better than tear/manamune.

I usually go dblade->sheen->black cleaver->triforce->banshees/whatever, sometimes ill get triforce after sheen or just the phage or just the health crystal before BC, depending on when I b and how the game is going.
When I have enough for sheen+boots1 I usually go back, mana crystal from sheen means I don't have mana problems. I run mp5/lvl blues with 21-0-9 masteries.

I guess if I was ganking alot I would need the mana regen but I'd rather farm and only gank if I kill mid or force him back and theres a good opportunity.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
January 28 2011 13:27 GMT
#53
I agree with you not needing manamune, because you can easily spam enough with just a sheen and mp5/lvl yellows. I think your best bet against some kass with maxed out ap rune pages is running flat mresist blues, which should stop his q hurting so much. Also, maybe worth picking up a fairly early merc treads, especially if their team is magic heavy. If the kass is running something retarded like clarity try to get your jungler to gank them before 6 as they will probably be an easy kill.

Once you are 6 you can just start gibbing waves anyway with q+r.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
January 28 2011 17:01 GMT
#54
On January 28 2011 21:20 Stealthpenguin wrote:
Can someone give me tips on how to lane against kassadin. If he pokes with q all I can get in is an auto. The silence is the big problem, I just get whittled down and then I have to b at lvl 5 or I get dove when he hits 6. To make it worse kassadins at my elo often take clarity or teleport so they can spam q at low levels all they want. Basically I'm asking what to do against silencers with corki.

Also am I not spamming my missiles enough since I never build manamune anymore, it feels like an item that's useless if you can manage without the mana regen. An earlier sheen seems so much better than tear/manamune.

I usually go dblade->sheen->black cleaver->triforce->banshees/whatever, sometimes ill get triforce after sheen or just the phage or just the health crystal before BC, depending on when I b and how the game is going.
When I have enough for sheen+boots1 I usually go back, mana crystal from sheen means I don't have mana problems. I run mp5/lvl blues with 21-0-9 masteries.

I guess if I was ganking alot I would need the mana regen but I'd rather farm and only gank if I kill mid or force him back and theres a good opportunity.


Force lvl 1 fights. Go q and auto attack pokes. He can only use a crap silence on you early levels, you have an auto attack that hits like a truck and a q. Q first, then auto attack. Q is instantaneous, kassadin's q takes a while to hit you. You are ranged, he is not. Abuse that. Use your auto attacks every time he gets close to creeps. Q autoattack back off and zone him out and punish him early levels.
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
January 28 2011 17:47 GMT
#55
0/9/21
red:armor pen
yellow:mana regen
blue:mr or cdr
quint:health

doran shield->serker/merc->sheen->cleaver->banshee or trinity or ie

flash ghost

u can thank me later
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LightRailCoyote
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States982 Posts
January 28 2011 18:22 GMT
#56
On January 29 2011 02:47 locodoco wrote:
0/9/21
red:armor pen
yellow:mana regen
blue:mr or cdr
quint:health

doran shield->serker/merc->sheen->cleaver->banshee or trinity or ie

flash ghost

u can thank me later


advantages of cleaver over IE? Am curious, since i don't see corki as needing too much AS to be effective, considering the pure amount of sheen dickery he carries on him.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 28 2011 18:28 GMT
#57
cleaver rapes face on Corki because of how it stacks with gattling gun to make squishies go to 0 or lower armor.
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
January 28 2011 20:16 GMT
#58
ya, rushing cleaver right after sheen (and negatron / cata / bveil as needed) gives you insane damage in the midgame ezeee

i stand by manamune being a legit solo q corki build, because it gives you massive mana and regen and a fair source of AD for the midgame (no dependence on blue buff for maintaining mana in fights and lane, which also lets giving that blue to anivia a lot easier on you too) which, combined with SoS (when you're running a 21-8-1 or 0-9-21 or something of the sort) gives you insane lanestaying power. i know regi still uses manamune on corki.

sheen cleaver gives you much better deeps faster tho, but manamune corki = #1 smurf corki build
never leave lane, get 4 BF swords imo

loco do u always complete boots before getting sheen? also whenever i watched your stream you always ran 21-0-9. faster summoners > more damage for u now?
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oob
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden630 Posts
January 31 2011 09:11 GMT
#59
So should I take the flat cdr runes, or the cdr/level?
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locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
January 31 2011 10:14 GMT
#60
i started running 0/9/21 cuz u can't beat certain match ups(nid,super good ashe's,etc) w/o,i try to make boots when the time feels "right",if they have rammus or shacco or some retardly op jungler i get mercs asap,when im farming well i take early zerkers,as for cdr runes u probably wanna run cdr/lvl on corki cuz u won't need the cdr at early levels due to ur mana pool not being able to support the heavy barrage of spells
i wish riot would give me better ping
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