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On November 04 2010 08:56 barbsq wrote:
Please do not go critfinity + razors, for the love of god, ever. Instead, get lw, it has much better synergy. Also note that you should be red+green potting regularly
otherwise, i prefer q>e since it doesnt push as hard, more of a stylistic difference imo, esp if ur good about warding and whatnot and if you're more comfortable last hitting with autoattacks
LW before inf or bloodthirster?.... YOu're crazy bro. I use to rush Blood thirster, but now, rush IE all the way. God damn, it is so much better. I never get a LW until i have 2 damage items, like 2 bf sword items or more.
I usually run dorans> first back bf + boots>finish boots 2>inf edge
On November 04 2010 09:32 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
imo Q > E for solo lane as well. Q puts so much pressure on people since it jumps in strange ways where you can think you'll miss and it jumps retarded and hits them. Maybe I'm just bad ^_^
In a solo lane against 2 people, max E definately because if you get denied, you cant do anything about it. I was playina morde and shen at top. couldnt do anything.
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For the record I disagree with Infinity Edge because it doesn't add to her ult at all and bloodthirster is cheaper for more damage and lifesteal.
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I play MF a bit and just to add
Runes
Blue = Magic resist
Red = Armor Pen
Yellow = Armour/MP5/lvl
Quint = Movement Speed
9/0/21
Ghost + Flash
Items
Dorans blade + pot
Merc treads
Bruatlizer
Infini Edge
Last whisper
Banshee if dying a bit else Madreds + Christmas tree
Skills
QEW then R>Q>E>W
Mid solo and you can generally dominate the lane or at least get them passive enough for you to farm up fairly freely, only person I run into problems against personally are Nidalee, *grumble op grumble*
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mf should stomp on nid, w > her heals, and she will generally take bushwhack level 1
so just level q and fuck her face from level 1-> 2. If you do it right, you can actually score first blood or zone her at level 1.
Level 2 level w. and just get in her face.
if she somehow wins the war of attrition then at level 6 i suppose just ult the creepwave and go buy cause her panther thing kinda hurts. You can juke it and own with e + kite kite (anticipate when shes gonna stop running and jump back at you)
But i find good nidalees are just too good at doing this, and somehow ill end up get flash pounced for first blood. so i just play passive
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On November 09 2010 13:47 xJacky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 08:56 barbsq wrote:
Please do not go critfinity + razors, for the love of god, ever. Instead, get lw, it has much better synergy. Also note that you should be red+green potting regularly
otherwise, i prefer q>e since it doesnt push as hard, more of a stylistic difference imo, esp if ur good about warding and whatnot and if you're more comfortable last hitting with autoattacks LW before inf or bloodthirster?.... YOu're crazy bro. I use to rush Blood thirster, but now, rush IE all the way. God damn, it is so much better. I never get a LW until i have 2 damage items, like 2 bf sword items or more. I usually run dorans> first back bf + boots>finish boots 2>inf edge
lolwut, i was commenting on the 'critfinity + mbr' build he had up earlier. Its retarded and has 0 synergy, plus the cost for two such completely different dmg types is huge and prohibitive, notice that he changed his critfinity + mbr build to critfinity + lw (thanks barbsq), l2read
also, you only need 1 bf item + lw then go survivability then more dmg if you can. Trying to build 100% glass cannon is retarded. 1 dmg item + accompanying, synergizing aspeed item is plenty for the vast majority of ranged carries for a looong time. After that, they want to invest in not exploding at the slightest touch, usually in the form of either ga or veil
edit: something i think you should mention in the op is that you shouldn't be afraid to q and just click on the enemy. For some bizarre reason, the vast majority of mf's i see feel like they HAVE to hit you with the bounce, which is retarded. The bounce is good for extending the range of the skill, but if they're already in click range, just shoot it at them instead of relying on a wonky bounce thing.
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I'd like some information on Ezpz's MF build if he's around to answer. Apparently he opens bruta into BT and then turns his bruta into a ghostblade. Is there specific reasons for getting a ghostblade besides having an extra ghost being awesome?
I also feel unsafe when I don't open with an extra Doran blade or two, especially if they're gunning for me, but I'm also playing in solo Q ^_^ I don't understand how he survives without em...
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On November 21 2010 02:28 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I'd like some information on Ezpz's MF build if he's around to answer. Apparently he opens bruta into BT and then turns his bruta into a ghostblade. Is there specific reasons for getting a ghostblade besides having an extra ghost being awesome?
I also feel unsafe when I don't open with an extra Doran blade or two, especially if they're gunning for me, but I'm also playing in solo Q ^_^ I don't understand how he survives without em...
Sort of like the salce build (i think its him) described earlier in the post? im assuming its for making her more of an auto attack champion rather than an ult based champ
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Pretty sure it'd be the opposite. If you want to auto-attack you go for infinity edge.
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On November 21 2010 07:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Pretty sure it'd be the opposite. If you want to auto-attack you go for infinity edge.
does brutalizer work with her ult? if so i just learned something
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On November 09 2010 03:48 NeoIllusions wrote:
You're so cute.
And on an offnote, LoCi is petitioning in Council to give Panth 4 (yes, that's right FOUR) skills for Panth. If Guinsoo and the designers listen, we might have a toned down Q but allow HSS do something besides throw feathers at the enemy team.
I don't find hss fun to use and that might make me drop the character tbh. Not interested in being forced to use a disintegrate you have to sit there and channel, how is that enjoyable?
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Bruta gives cdr and AD even if the armor pen doesn't work with the ult (which I'm unsure about). Pretty sure ghostblade is more for the ghost and the stats it gives are great regardless.
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On November 21 2010 07:32 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 07:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Pretty sure it'd be the opposite. If you want to auto-attack you go for infinity edge. does brutalizer work with her ult? if so i just learned something
no ult is magic dmg, speccing 9 in offense for teh 15% magic pen affects e and ult, as do sorc bots haunting guise, void staff, etc etc.
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But is it worth taking over SoS
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On November 21 2010 13:46 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
But is it worth taking over SoS
if u have an aoe comp? i find i dont use mf ulti a lot because i have to kite
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On November 21 2010 02:28 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I'd like some information on Ezpz's MF build if he's around to answer. Apparently he opens bruta into BT and then turns his bruta into a ghostblade. Is there specific reasons for getting a ghostblade besides having an extra ghost being awesome?
I also feel unsafe when I don't open with an extra Doran blade or two, especially if they're gunning for me, but I'm also playing in solo Q ^_^ I don't understand how he survives without em...
i like the flat pen on brutal. chauster does BR after BT GB and banshees but i prefer LW, i guess he has better last hitting or something but i always feel so gimped when im building the BR pieces.
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+ Show Spoiler +23.Miss Fortune
24.
25. * Double Up
26. o Bonus damage reduced to 0/10/20/30/40. AD ratio remains 115%.
27. * Make It Rain
28. o Slow removed.
29. * Bullet Time
30. o Cone width decreased by 100 units.
31. o Bonus damage ratio decreased to 10% from 20%.
32. o Bonus ability power ratio increased to 0.8 from 0.4.
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Does this mean that AP MF is now viable? since her ults AP ratio is higher than her AD ratio for it? or played as more of a hybrid perhaps?
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On November 24 2010 22:23 arb wrote:+ Show Spoiler +23.Miss Fortune
24.
25. * Double Up
26. o Bonus damage reduced to 0/10/20/30/40. AD ratio remains 115%.
27. * Make It Rain
28. o Slow removed.
29. * Bullet Time
30. o Cone width decreased by 100 units.
31. o Bonus damage ratio decreased to 10% from 20%.
32. o Bonus ability power ratio increased to 0.8 from 0.4.
33. Does this mean that AP MF is now viable? since her ults AP ratio is higher than her AD ratio for it? or played as more of a hybrid perhaps?
it means i just found a new hero to stack hextechs on....... :O
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On November 24 2010 22:23 arb wrote:+ Show Spoiler +23.Miss Fortune
24.
25. * Double Up
26. o Bonus damage reduced to 0/10/20/30/40. AD ratio remains 115%.
27. * Make It Rain
28. o Slow removed.
29. * Bullet Time
30. o Cone width decreased by 100 units.
31. o Bonus damage ratio decreased to 10% from 20%.
32. o Bonus ability power ratio increased to 0.8 from 0.4.
33. Does this mean that AP MF is now viable? since her ults AP ratio is higher than her AD ratio for it? or played as more of a hybrid perhaps?
God, nerfed into the fucking ground. MF without slow on make it rain makes her into ashe without the slow, her ult is already thin as fk and double up gets gimped super hard. I'm interested in what ezpz thinks about this.
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if that patchnotes are real, wow mf just got worse than urgot lol
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