as long as the lane is in middle, hardly any ranged dps outclasses the other by much, if skill is ~even(and items) cloth=rejuv>shield=boots>blade, but usually u get cv for that anyways.

however, stronger ashe doesnt nessecary win lane vs weaker corki( elo difference), until later levels(past6).

and stronger corki autowins vs weak ashe(at level 4-> beyond)

corki is better than mf in this regard because he punishes lower elo ppl btr( solo q)
1) q harass stronger
2) w blows flash
3) flash for kill
mf has her place in aoe comps i guess, i dont play her much anymore.

Morphx2

147 Posts

June 11 2011 18:43 GMT

#63

So what kind of builds to people make on Ms Fortune now-a-days? It seems like bloodthirster and frozen mallet are good?

dnastyx

United States2707 Posts

June 11 2011 19:26 GMT

#64

frozen mallet are good?

Nooooooooooooo. Mallet is a terrible item. Bloodthirster is good though.

Goshawk.

United Kingdom5338 Posts

June 12 2011 00:35 GMT

#65

Doran's blade->boots+1/2 more dorans->zerkers->IE->PD->BT+LW. Get banshees at some point usually if you feel you need it, but you really shouldnt get it before IE+PD, as you need good damage output asap.

Can also start out with BT or BC and I see lots of BT first, though I'm not convinced.

Bot with support run 21/0/9 exhaust, flash. If solo 9/0/21 or 1/8/21 is prob viable too. Q first, then 1 point in Q,W and E at 3. Then R>Q>E>W. Best thing about MF is sick damage output from auto attacks esp early game.

Ulti is very good for clearing creep waves when they are pushing or you are pushing.

Morphx2

147 Posts

June 12 2011 03:16 GMT

#66

thanks for the tips. i will give it a whirl

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

June 12 2011 04:32 GMT

#67

On June 12 2011 09:35 Goshawk. wrote:
Doran's blade->boots+1/2 more dorans->zerkers->IE->PD->BT+LW. Get banshees at some point usually if you feel you need it, but you really shouldnt get it before IE+PD, as you need good damage output asap.

Can also start out with BT or BC and I see lots of BT first, though I'm not convinced.

Bot with support run 21/0/9 exhaust, flash. If solo 9/0/21 or 1/8/21 is prob viable too. Q first, then 1 point in Q,W and E at 3. Then R>Q>E>W. Best thing about MF is sick damage output from auto attacks esp early game.

Ulti is very good for clearing creep waves when they are pushing or you are pushing.

BT = Max Q first, get mad leech from Q on hit effects.
IE = Max W first, chase people down with pewpew

Morphx2

147 Posts

June 12 2011 05:42 GMT

#68

maybe my teams have all sucked tonight, but i cant seem to do good damage with her. Even the ult seems to not do as much as i thought it would. Will keep on trying until I get a competent team, i think Ive lost almost all of mine tonight except 1 :\

dnastyx

United States2707 Posts

June 12 2011 06:34 GMT

#69

What's your average cs at 10 minutes? When, on average, do you manage to complete your BT or IE?

Morphx2

147 Posts

June 12 2011 17:23 GMT

#70

I last hit awesomely in a solo lane, but offhand I forget how much CS I get. I will check it out today and report back if I get to have a solo lane.

Woony

Germany6657 Posts

June 12 2011 18:19 GMT

#71

For reference, 100 CS in 12 minutes is good, 14 minutes is still decent if there is a lit of action in lane or something. If youre getting owned/denied these benchmarks obviously dont count.

Brambled

United States750 Posts

October 18 2011 17:12 GMT

#72

So with recent change to MF with the Ult adding AP dmg as well as AD dmg has this affected her build at all?

freelander

Hungary4707 Posts

October 18 2011 17:25 GMT

#73

it prolly had more effect if they didnt nerf gunblade at the same time

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

October 18 2011 17:28 GMT

#74

no. it just means that baron helps your ult more, a WotA helps you more, Taric's ult makes your ult huge and Sona's Q Aura helps you more.

Brambled

United States750 Posts

October 18 2011 17:30 GMT

#75

So overall she just gained more synergy it seems. I must have missed it but how was gunblade nerfed?

Ayestes

United States106 Posts

October 18 2011 18:56 GMT

#76

The way it looks like on the forums right now it lost 5 AP, 5% Spell Vamp, 5% Lifesteal, and 20 AD. I haven't found the source of it however. If anything the change just made AP more useful, but no where near as useful as AD. Pretty sure Mogwai has it right in that only external sources of AP are what are going to really benefit it.