• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:14
CET 17:14
KST 01:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT29Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice4Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza1Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0258
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion It's March 3rd Soma Explains: JD's Unrelenting Aggro vs FlaSh BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ CasterMuse Youtube
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues BWCL Season 64 Announcement The Casual Games of the Week Thread [LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Diablo 2 thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Just Watchers: Why Some Only…
TrAiDoS
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1610 users

LOTV Beta: Balance Update Preview June 9 - Page 3

Forum Index > Legacy of the Void
297 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 13 14 15 Next All
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10104 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-12 19:08:32
June 12 2015 19:07 GMT
#41
the overlord upgrade looks nice

the ghost drone is a "vs ultra change", why dont just buff snipe and add another feature to the ghost?

if they want to change the medivac i would prefer the hots orginal chnage that buffed the healing ratio, make the upgrade require fusion core and be expensive.

no mention to the liberator bug, is it going to stay?

im feeling a little bit dissapointed with this patch
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
June 12 2015 19:11 GMT
#42
On June 13 2015 04:07 Topin wrote:
the overlord upgrade looks nice

the ghost drone is a "vs ultra change", why dont just buff snipe and add another feature to the ghost?

if they want to change the medivac i would prefer the hots orginal chnage that buffed the healing ratio, make the upgrade require fusion core and be expensive.

no mention to the liberator bug, is it going to stay?

im feeling a little bit dissapointed with this patch



Yeah good point, what about the Liberator bug? They should change it fast or people will get used to it .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 12 2015 19:12 GMT
#43
The change that stands out to me the most is the overlord drop change, simply because that change is clearly influenced by the community.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 12 2015 19:12 GMT
#44
Dunno about you guys but I'm glad the ghost is getting corruption as a spell.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
June 12 2015 19:16 GMT
#45
Lol a these terran changes, seriously. Terran is faster and stronger than other races units (speedvacs and stim), T can be anywhere and trade favorably with any of the other races if
1) P doesnt have perfect unit mix
2) Z doesn't have tons o banelings... nevermind T still trades favorably or at least even unless T doesn't micro at all.

T speedvacs are so affective its borderline imbalanced, what are we seeing terran players do nowadays? Speedvacs harassing all day everygame, the opponent know what they are going to do? Doesn't matter it cant be blocked because its so flexible, it can always get damage. So whats the answer, buff speedvacs more? What the hell, then please buff the defense of all races. Defense is unbalanced as it is vs speedvacs, if any change is needed its the opposite.

Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16055 Posts
June 12 2015 19:18 GMT
#46
what is this overlord drop change supposed to do?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Nine Gates
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland198 Posts
June 12 2015 19:22 GMT
#47
On June 13 2015 04:18 Charoisaur wrote:
what is this overlord drop change supposed to do?
Instead of researching Ventral Sacs to turn all your Overlords into dropships, you can individually transform Overlords into Drop Overlords. So you can do some drop play without having to pay the entire cost of Ventral Sacs.
1112345678999
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1004 Posts
June 12 2015 19:22 GMT
#48
On June 13 2015 04:18 Charoisaur wrote:
what is this overlord drop change supposed to do?


Yea I'm a bit confused on this as well, maybe since they said individual it's like, you turn it into Overseer, then additional upgrade/morph time enables Overseers to have cargo? I re read it so if anyone could clarify that would be cool.

Any buffs to the Ghost is totally welcome, decent change on the Ravager and Medivac even though they aren't quite as elegant as I would like, the Parasitic Bomb changes seem not good enough though, I'm a Zerg and it's a bit unfair how OP it is lol

This is the direction the patches should be going, this is probably one of the better patches that has come out so far.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13991 Posts
June 12 2015 19:25 GMT
#49
Make HT viable plox and dont buff medivacs
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
June 12 2015 19:28 GMT
#50
I think they should increase the Parasitic Bomb damage or decrase the time it needs to deal the damage, but don't make the damage stack, just like storm. So units can only take damage from a single bomb at a time.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Dota_Lust
Profile Joined May 2015
14 Posts
June 12 2015 19:32 GMT
#51
On June 13 2015 04:28 Musicus wrote:
I think they should increase the Parasitic Bomb damage or decrase the time it needs to deal the damage, but don't make the damage stack, just like storm. So units can only take damage from a single bomb at a time.


The stacking has got to be a bug. The exponential damage doesn't make sense.
Sogetsu
Profile Joined July 2011
514 Posts
June 12 2015 19:39 GMT
#52
I will be honest here... if the only changes were the Ravager and Overlord one (also the Armory, ok, but I want combined Armor Ship and Vehicle Plate at least) I would be happy.

But seeing the other changes it is like "Ugh... they have no idea what they are gonna do or even trying to do"

I don't know, I think I am gona try again Starbow, this is sad man... I still had some hopes before this patch.
Raptor: "Es hora de salvar a los E-Sports..." http://i3.minus.com/ibtne3liprtByB.png
ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
June 12 2015 19:40 GMT
#53
On June 13 2015 04:18 Charoisaur wrote:
what is this overlord drop change supposed to do?


I think it will be clearer with more details. For example, if it just costs mineral to convert an overlord to carry and if it is available before lair.

If either of these are the case it makes drops much more available to zerg. I would consider converting just 2-4 ovis and loading them with lings earlier in the game. Interesting plays like that could be available.
knOxStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada422 Posts
June 12 2015 19:44 GMT
#54
Still no ladder? Guess they'll continue to have no players to test their stupid little changes.
TheWinks
Profile Joined July 2011
United States572 Posts
June 12 2015 19:44 GMT
#55
Instead of increasing ghost speed, just give ghosts stim.
91matt
Profile Joined March 2013
United Kingdom147 Posts
June 12 2015 19:47 GMT
#56
people still arnt going to play it unless they put a ladder in.
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
June 12 2015 19:53 GMT
#57
Ghost Drone will not just be a Ultra counter, it will be really useful against any high priority target like Battlecruisers, Carriers and Colossus.

I hope the Ghost Drone will have lots of HP though and that you have to target them manually in order to shoot them down.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4041 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-12 20:08:46
June 12 2015 19:58 GMT
#58
yes, fLyiNgDroNe ftw!

EDIT: hey i just got in beta!!! perfect timing for me!
Drone is a way of living
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
June 12 2015 19:58 GMT
#59
I wonder if the drone can send a target into negative armor or if the floor is 0. Also I wonder if it will effect both Protoss shield and hull armor or only hull.
Wat
caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-12 20:07:14
June 12 2015 20:06 GMT
#60
Does this mean Ghost spell on a unit with less than 3 armor will take bonus damage to attacks? Ie. if you hit a 0 armor zergling, then it will take +3 damage to every attack? Or does it cancel @ 0/

I'm also thinking about how this works against Immortals and barrier.
why?
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 13 14 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 46m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko521
trigger 100
SpeCial 73
TKL 7
elazer 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 35741
Sea 32332
PianO 1031
Mini 811
Hyuk 796
Soma 671
Larva 652
ZerO 450
Light 325
Rush 152
[ Show more ]
Hm[arnc] 122
Dewaltoss 103
Sharp 81
soO 36
Yoon 33
sorry 27
Rock 18
GoRush 15
yabsab 14
Sacsri 12
scan(afreeca) 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
Terrorterran 10
NotJumperer 8
Shine 8
Dota 2
Gorgc3435
Counter-Strike
fl0m2934
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes320
Other Games
B2W.Neo981
hiko732
Fuzer 205
DeMusliM203
Hui .154
mouzStarbuck135
Liquid`VortiX130
XaKoH 125
QueenE56
Trikslyr25
ZerO(Twitch)12
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV117
Counter-Strike
PGL74
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 19
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1692
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 46m
The PondCast
17h 46m
KCM Race Survival
17h 46m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
19h 46m
Classic vs Nicoract
herO vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs Gerald
Clem vs Krystianer
Replay Cast
1d 7h
Ultimate Battle
1d 19h
Light vs ZerO
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 19h
MaxPax vs Spirit
Rogue vs Bunny
Cure vs SHIN
Solar vs Zoun
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
OSC
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-03
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.