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[Patch 12.7] Arcana Skins Release Discussion

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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
April 13 2022 07:03 GMT
#1
Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.

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Patch 12.7: Live on April. 13, 2022

Team Fight Tactics Patch 12.7 Live on April. 13, 2022


+ Show Spoiler [Previous GD Threads & Patch Notes] +

Patch 12.6 Battle Skins General Discussion
Patch 12.5 Bee Skinline General Discussion
Patch 12.4 Renata Glasc Release General Discussion
Patch 12.3 Bruiser Item Adjustments General Discussion
Patch 12.2 Zeri Release General Discussion
Patch 12.1 The 2022 Ranked Season Begins
Patch 11.24 Debonair Skin Set General Discussion
Patch 11.23 Preseason Patch General Discussion
Patch 11.21 Dragon Skin Line General Discussion
Patch 11.20 Betwitching Skins General Discussion
Patch 11.19 Vex Champion Release General Discussion
Patch 11.18 Worlds Patch General Discussion
Patch 11.17 Pentakill Returns
Patch 11.16 Coven & Old Gods General Discussion
Patch 11.15 Akshan Release General Discussion
Patch 11.12 Dr. Mundo Rework General Discussion
Patch 11.10 Arcana Skins General Discussion
Patch 11.8/9 Gwen Release General Discussion
Patch 11.7 Space Groove General Discussion
Patch 11.6 Battle Academia General Discussion
Patch 11.5 The Bees Knees General Discussion
Patch 11.4 Jungle Gets Nerfed (Again) General Discussion
Lunar Beast Skins Release Discussion]Patch 11.3 Lunar Beast Skins Release Discussion
Patch 11.2 Viego Release General Discussion
Patch 11.1 New Season New Me
Que Sera Sera
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
April 13 2022 07:04 GMT
#2
Riot REALLY trying to make GP and Gwen broken again!

Finally, a patch with some reasonable changes. Lee nerfs seem to never matter for the champ in pro. Players just love playing him so much that his actual strength is actually irrelevant cause of the brain buff it gives junglers.
Que Sera Sera
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-13 08:11:59
April 13 2022 08:11 GMT
#3
honestly still dont understand how a massive company like riot cant bring out an acceptable client. its really not that difficult.
i just returned to the game to find out theres a thing called mythic essence. i have about 100 of them and i dont give a shit about skins so i want to trade them out for blue essence. it is a fucking joke that like with all the other shit in this clunky useless loot system, you cant set a quantity. i have to trade out the mythic essence 1 by 1 a hundred times whilst watching pointless animations to get a measly amount of something i can actually use. fuck this client seriously

I mean, look at how garbage many AAA and AA games released are, there is no incentive in the video games industry to create quality products because gamers will buy/spend anyway. I know what you mean, I have like 200 champion shards, and that's after I disenchanted a bunch of them years ago. If I wanted to clean the loot screen up, I would probably need an hour of pointless clicking.

Patch notes:

- GP buffs lol, this champ does not need damage, he needs his mechanics readjusted. He's almost impossible to balance because his barrels are either nukes that one shot entire teams, or tickle you. And Riot has shoehorned his entire champ concept around it.
- Gwen is the same story, Riot has created a champ that is entirely about numbers because on paper he kit is insanely OP. So to balance her they tweak some values and pray that the player base doesn't pick her up.
- Ryze is turning more and more into an AP champion, might as well as remove his mana interaction and be done with it.
- Wtf those Wukong buffs.
- Haha look at those Zeri nerfs, that champ is just disgusting. But it's misleading because from looks of it they're buffing her late game in return for a weaker early.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
April 13 2022 15:16 GMT
#4
I disagree or are confused about pretty much all the changes. The most notable:

The Kalista text is wrong, here's the fixed version "Kalista hasn't seen pro play in a while so here is some buffs, but once she is played in pro we immediately are nerfing her again".

They are doing the same with on-hit Neeko.

Wukong buffs look absolutely bonkers and cheaper Oranges on GP is uuuurgh.

Winter's Embrace is popular because it is the only mana item for tanks you can reliable buy early without feeling bad. Just reintroduce Catalyst and everyone is happy.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4103 Posts
April 16 2022 15:34 GMT
#5
I had a lot of wtf moments while reading the changes explanations, but this one was the winner for me: Yone is also getting more access to his ult, but with a focus on late game which is when it's usually harder for him to close gaps

yone cant gap close good enough, like this goes beyond the funny territory and lands into the left hand has no idea what the right does or that there is even a right
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4711 Posts
April 16 2022 18:29 GMT
#6
Sometimes I don't even know how Yone gapcloses, he just does.
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lenagrot
Profile Joined April 2022
2 Posts
April 17 2022 12:20 GMT
#7
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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
April 26 2022 07:29 GMT
#8
one of these days they will nerf riven
trust
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
April 26 2022 14:33 GMT
#9
On April 26 2022 16:29 Fildun wrote:
one of these days they will nerf riven
trust

I remember that one Rioter posting how on average a Riven player would have a 50% winrate, but this would rise to almost 65% if they played her for 50+ games, even going into GM / Challenger. She is probably the ultimate soloQ champ that has been largely ignored in competitive for years (and there are even some pros who OTP'd her).
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
April 26 2022 14:53 GMT
#10
she was kind of fine end of last season but this season idk man
when you look at toplaners in challenger half of them are s11 masters riven onetricks
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
April 26 2022 20:22 GMT
#11
To be honest I think she's being carried entirely by the rediculous Death's Dance+Maw combo and additional their synergy with her ultimate being a AD steroid too.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
April 28 2022 08:15 GMT
#12
DARKNESSS?

Any thoughts on new Swain? I've tried him as a sololaner every mythic AP feels horrible, I haven't tried it but I'm starting to think Moonstone be the best.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
April 28 2022 08:42 GMT
#13
From what I've seen, his healing seems to be overall stronger, he finally fits the theme of drain tank again.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-30 10:34:18
April 30 2022 10:33 GMT
#14
On April 28 2022 17:42 DarkCore wrote:
From what I've seen, his healing seems to be overall stronger, he finally fits the theme of drain tank again.

I've played him a bit and it feels like he does so little damage now, which combined with how gankable he is makes laning really really rough. The theoretical perma ult is super nice and really brings back the feel of his old ultimate.

For me the best results so far has been a Rylai's first and Stoneplate second. You need to the stickiness and ability to survive initial burst, Stoneplate has felt like a superior version of Hourglass. He is in the wonky spot where no mythic really seem strong, Moonstone 3rd or 4th feel as the best since you want to teamfight constantly and he has huge synergy with the item.

Some match ups feel completely unplayable so ban Irelia and dodge Riven unless you want to be greyscreened.

Oh and even with the ARAM nerfs he's completely batshit busted in the gamemode.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4103 Posts
May 01 2022 07:18 GMT
#15
as a Swain enjoyer from time to time (I still mourn about his first version xD) I feel like this iteration is viable bot with a high damage supports (brand, velkoz, zyra etc.) and could be viable mid, again with more hyper damage champions in the team (vayne top, karthus jungle, brand support etc.). In other words he is viable on the carry positions but not being the carry
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
May 01 2022 14:08 GMT
#16
On May 01 2022 16:18 M2 wrote:
as a Swain enjoyer from time to time (I still mourn about his first version xD) I feel like this iteration is viable bot with a high damage supports (brand, velkoz, zyra etc.) and could be viable mid, again with more hyper damage champions in the team (vayne top, karthus jungle, brand support etc.). In other words he is viable on the carry positions but not being the carry

Cane Swain best Swain.

I dont know about duolane, he wants level 11 asap it makes the base values on ultimate literally more than twice as strong. Theoretical I think he would be at his best if he is duo until level 6 where he can safely sololane then switch with one of the sololaners. Maybe some wonky feasting Senna shenanigans?
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4103 Posts
May 11 2022 14:35 GMT
#17
new olaf if hilariously bad, decided to try him top, he loses to everything early and gets outscaled later xD. Maybe he is fine vs tanks, but yeah there is nothing interesting or working well in his rework imo
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 11 2022 23:51 GMT
#18
This new post game menu should be considered a crime against humanity. Its just so much nonsense
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8614 Posts
May 12 2022 05:32 GMT
#19
of all the client related things they could have changed, they changed this. lol
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
May 12 2022 07:26 GMT
#20
On May 11 2022 23:35 M2 wrote:
new olaf if hilariously bad, decided to try him top, he loses to everything early and gets outscaled later xD. Maybe he is fine vs tanks, but yeah there is nothing interesting or working well in his rework imo

Everything I've seen on streams seems to confirm this, champ sprints it down every part of the game, he has zero redeeming features.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
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