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[Patch 11.13] Tahm Kench Rework General Discussion

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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
June 25 2021 11:05 GMT
#1
Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.

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Patch 11.13: Live on June. 24, 2021

Team Fight Tactics Patch 11.13 Live on June. 24, 2021

Tahm Kench, The River King will be reworked this patch.

+ Show Spoiler [Previous GD Threads & Patch Notes] +

Patch 11.12 Dr. Mundo Rework General Discussion
Patch 11.10 Arcana Skins General Discussion
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Lunar Beast Skins Release Discussion]Patch 11.3 Lunar Beast Skins Release Discussion
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Que Sera Sera
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
June 26 2021 09:48 GMT
#2
I dont know if I love the rework or not. It feels so weird devour have such a long cooldown, but I can definitely understand why they did it. Tried him support, it felt pretty meh but you can make some pretty nasty roams with W now.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4168 Posts
June 27 2021 10:50 GMT
#3
Honestly, since I stopped putting effort and playing, a game or two here there, I realized how many champs are actually in the game, plenty i dont see for months.
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
June 27 2021 20:31 GMT
#4
On June 27 2021 19:50 M2 wrote:
Honestly, since I stopped putting effort and playing, a game or two here there, I realized how many champs are actually in the game, plenty i dont see for months.


Champs like Heimer and Skarner hover around a 1% pick rate, if you play 200 games a season there's a realistic chance you might not see them at all, or just once or twice. It's actually pretty sad, can't remember the last time Vi was considered viable.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-28 07:31:56
June 28 2021 07:27 GMT
#5
On June 27 2021 19:50 M2 wrote:
Honestly, since I stopped putting effort and playing, a game or two here there, I realized how many champs are actually in the game, plenty i dont see for months.

I occasionally grab my last smoke of the day (down to 4!) during loading screen and I more often than not cannot guess which champion is which from a distance, have direct view from outside on my porch so we are talking like 5 meters. There's so many confusing skins now so much for clarity.

On June 28 2021 05:31 DarkCore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2021 19:50 M2 wrote:
Honestly, since I stopped putting effort and playing, a game or two here there, I realized how many champs are actually in the game, plenty i dont see for months.


Champs like Heimer and Skarner hover around a 1% pick rate, if you play 200 games a season there's a realistic chance you might not see them at all, or just once or twice. It's actually pretty sad, can't remember the last time Vi was considered viable.

My experience with Vi over the last few years is.
1) Never see her.
2) End up in a game with an OTP.
3) Wonder how such a broken champion can exist in the game.
4) Never see her.
5) Some autofilled play her.
6) Wonder if it's the same champion or if Riot added another pink haired boxing punker.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4168 Posts
June 28 2021 09:29 GMT
#6
On June 28 2021 16:27 Jek wrote:

I occasionally grab my last smoke of the day (down to 4!) during loading screen and I more often than not cannot guess which champion is which from a distance, have direct view from outside on my porch so we are talking like 5 meters. There's so many confusing skins now so much for clarity.



I also do something similar, however, I am staying right in front of my monitor looking at the skin, most of the time I even know the champion from the champ select, but sometimes I dont pay enough attention, so I am looking the skin without reading the name below and often I have no idea what I am looking at. Moreover, many times during the game itself I am getting confused what is this champion or why is pyke ganking me top lvl 2 and then I realize that this is ekko jungle and there is no pyke in the game at all. Sometimes I even fail to recognize abilities effects or briefly confuse them with different ones from different champions
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
June 28 2021 12:14 GMT
#7
That's just you getting old though..
Taxes are for Terrans
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9304 Posts
July 07 2021 15:52 GMT
#8
What the hell Riot, you could take away half of this champ's kit and still have a decent marksman.

You're now breathing manually
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 07 2021 17:26 GMT
#9
On July 08 2021 00:52 Sent. wrote:
What the hell Riot, you could take away half of this champ's kit and still have a decent marksman.

https://youtu.be/zOEH_RwboKw

The only thing I can think of his preview is.... Lol
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 07 2021 17:56 GMT
#10
That kit looks like Riot intentionally tried to make the most OP kit possible
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4168 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-07 18:26:24
July 07 2021 18:24 GMT
#11
is he supposed to be the marksman? make sense that he is showed top i guess xD, anyway several seasons ago his Passive + W would have been a different champion on its own (an overloaded one)
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
July 07 2021 19:56 GMT
#12
This is Sivir, Quinn, Lucian and Vayne in one kit. Also has the power to insta resurrect allies when killing a scoundrel? This is beyond OP what the fuck lol.
Taxes are for Terrans
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
July 07 2021 20:57 GMT
#13
His passive is like 5 people got together and every one wanted to add a passive to the champ so he got 5 passives.

Why does he need bonus MS for cancelling autos?
Que Sera Sera
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
July 07 2021 20:57 GMT
#14
I don't even find that kind of overloaded kit funny anymore. This champ makes CertaintlyT champs look like minions, his passive alone has a bigger description than some of the more basic champs.

This is Sivir, Quinn, Lucian and Vayne in one kit

Throw in some Camille and a reset too.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
July 07 2021 21:31 GMT
#15
On July 08 2021 05:57 DarkCore wrote:
I don't even find that kind of overloaded kit funny anymore. This champ makes CertaintlyT champs look like minions, his passive alone has a bigger description than some of the more basic champs.

Show nested quote +
This is Sivir, Quinn, Lucian and Vayne in one kit

Throw in some Camille and a reset too.


"We now introduce, the Miss Fortune Minion. This is part of the first wave of the minions rework, set for season 12. Prepare yourselves for big jiggly tits every 5th wave, a slow field and an aoe damage spell. Other champions that will find themselves in the first wave of minion line transitioning will be: Nasus, Olaf, Singed and Teemo. We are very excited for these changes, as they are sure to spice up laning even more!"
Taxes are for Terrans
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
July 07 2021 21:40 GMT
#16
On July 08 2021 06:31 Uldridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2021 05:57 DarkCore wrote:
I don't even find that kind of overloaded kit funny anymore. This champ makes CertaintlyT champs look like minions, his passive alone has a bigger description than some of the more basic champs.

This is Sivir, Quinn, Lucian and Vayne in one kit

Throw in some Camille and a reset too.


"We now introduce, the Miss Fortune Minion. This is part of the first wave of the minions rework, set for season 12. Prepare yourselves for big jiggly tits every 5th wave, a slow field and an aoe damage spell. Other champions that will find themselves in the first wave of minion line transitioning will be: Nasus, Olaf, Singed and Teemo. We are very excited for these changes, as they are sure to spice up laning even more!"


I'm listening...
Que Sera Sera
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-07 22:39:01
July 07 2021 22:38 GMT
#17
On July 08 2021 06:31 Uldridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2021 05:57 DarkCore wrote:
I don't even find that kind of overloaded kit funny anymore. This champ makes CertaintlyT champs look like minions, his passive alone has a bigger description than some of the more basic champs.

This is Sivir, Quinn, Lucian and Vayne in one kit

Throw in some Camille and a reset too.


"We now introduce, the Miss Fortune Minion. This is part of the first wave of the minions rework, set for season 12. Prepare yourselves for big jiggly tits every 5th wave, a slow field and an aoe damage spell. Other champions that will find themselves in the first wave of minion line transitioning will be: Nasus, Olaf, Singed and Teemo. We are very excited for these changes, as they are sure to spice up laning even more!"

Minions definitely need a true damage execute every 3rd attack to make last hitting harder too. I vote for every 3rd wave it's Vayne minions instead of Miss Fortune.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9304 Posts
July 07 2021 22:54 GMT
#18
Maybe put Vayne minions in the top lane, MF minions in the bot lane and in the middle add Sivir minions that pop a 1 second spellshield when their hp drops to 30%.
You're now breathing manually
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8875 Posts
July 08 2021 04:36 GMT
#19
legit what a dumb fucking "esports" company. i get so mad at valve for fucking up their management of dota so that we have to be satisfied with lol as the dominant moba.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
July 08 2021 11:48 GMT
#20
On July 08 2021 13:36 evilfatsh1t wrote:
legit what a dumb fucking "esports" company. i get so mad at valve for fucking up their management of dota so that we have to be satisfied with lol as the dominant moba.

Everyone here has been playing the game for so long watching it 'degrade', I guess this is what bitter old people feel like when they say 'back in my day'. But I really hate the utility creep in this game, new champs kits look like something you'd find in WoW or PoE, you only really figure these champs out if you OTP them and spend hundreds of hours playing them exclusively. Meanwhile their opponents have to suffer with the fact that every 2nd soloQ somebody is running it down because they have no clue what the champ's kit does, even after seeing it 10 times and reading the wiki.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
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