EPT[Patch 7.23] Zoe General Discussion - Page 7
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Then every time you try and make a play i can make something bigger than a slight zoning happen, grow a big lead. I also can respond to any huge dives you attempt. I'm confident in my abilities, less confident in my teammates abilities. Chances are one player on your team will be a monkey in pretty much every game. Lol. If that's s bot lane player that can be real risky. I think if you're confident in yourself you make plays you have more influence in the success of, not ones where you have less. I'm confident that I can make it impossible for other guy to make effective ganks bot with vision, and get more in some sort of cross map play. You also have to consider how just not being in sight at all puts out a lot of map pressure too, but every time you walk over a ward you are releasing all of that in every area you are not. I think it was Scip that said like 99% of junglers would be higher ELO if they just never ganked till level 6 at the earliest. obviously less true last season. I don't necessarily follow that, but there is big merit there. Its nerve racking if you havn't seen the enemy jungler, its like 4 minutes, and you know he started on the other side of the map. Part of this is my penchant to play uber fast farming immobile champs though. I generally just don't feel safe walking behind bot lane. Always vision. Risky. I also can generally get your whole top side jungle at worst during a single sussed out gank. That happens twice and I'm rich enough to prettymuch go wherever I want. Even bot lane. Lol. But it sounds like we just have different styles though. I generally win by just always having more gold than other jungler. I definitely went to the Saintvicuous/Meteos school of jungling, sounds like you're more mainstream. For example I'd probably just never pick nunu. Lol. More likely to pick like Shyvana, Graves, Skarner, Udyr, Nidalee, Evelynn. Shit like that. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On November 28 2017 15:20 IamPryda wrote: anyone want to give me a run down of what champs are strong mid, top and jungle for someone who hasn't played since august and is to lazy to do research? just 2 or 3 for each role should do it Ornn is probably the strongest toplaner at the moment. Zoe is very strong in capable hands with Taliyah by extension being very viable too as she's extremely good against her, Malzahar is pretty good too and borderline broken in his "good" match ups, Kassadin is as always in yoloQ a good pick too for mid. Junglers I'm not too sure about but from in-game experience I see a lot of high damage champs (Xin and J4 with multiple AD items) doing good with Rammus being the premiere tank jungler. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4186 Posts
On November 28 2017 15:20 IamPryda wrote: anyone want to give me a run down of what champs are strong mid, top and jungle for someone who hasn't played since august and is to lazy to do research? just 2 or 3 for each role should do it Top - Ornn, Mao, Teemo, Rumble, Jayce Mid- Malz, Thalia, Zilean , Xerath, Lux - poke champs Jungle - Xin and Jarvan are like a level above the rest, then Shyvana, Reksai, Kayn, Rammus, The Wolf Hope this helps | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On November 28 2017 22:01 M2 wrote: Top - Ornn, Mao, Teemo, Rumble, Jayce Mid- Malz, Thalia, Zilean , Xerath, Lux - poke champs Jungle - Xin and Jarvan are like a level above the rest, then Shyvana, Reksai, Kayn, Rammus, The Wolf Hope this helps I feel like Kassa, Kat, Ori, Syndra and GP deserves to be mentioned for mid as well as K6 and Rengar for jungle. A lot of viable top champs atm but Ornn and Mao are definitely the most consistent I feel. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Anyone try Zoe ADC? If she can lane 2v2 I could see that being legit. The mobility mixed with self peel is unreal. Range is a little low, and base stats kinda suck tho. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On November 29 2017 05:31 Ansibled wrote: I think Shyvana is still complete garbage and if they want that champion to ever be good again they need to revert sated devourer. Last patch: 12th highest pick rate, 3rd highest win rate. This patch: 4th highest pick rate, 7th highest win rate. You may think she's a bad champion, but she's doing a good job of winning games regardless of who is playing her. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
I tried a game of vi on a whim the other day and I legit died to jungle creeps for the first time in probably 3+ years. It felt like I was in a time chamber jungling in slow motion. Of course it's going to take them months to even address issues like this then even longer to actually fix it so don't hold your breath. Instead they will continue to do idiotic things like nerf champions that aren't strong on a baseline to bandage what the jungle currently is, aftershock and electrocute paradise | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
On November 28 2017 20:44 Jek wrote: Ornn is probably the strongest toplaner at the moment. Zoe is very strong in capable hands with Taliyah by extension being very viable too as she's extremely good against her, Malzahar is pretty good too and borderline broken in his "good" match ups, Kassadin is as always in yoloQ a good pick too for mid. Junglers I'm not too sure about but from in-game experience I see a lot of high damage champs (Xin and J4 with multiple AD items) doing good with Rammus being the premiere tank jungler. Think I am gonna try out Zoe, Kassadin and Ekko have always been my favorite mids and seems like she has some similar play patterns. And def excited to see Rammy meta in jungle what about sej I feel like I remember seeing her being played at worlds | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On November 29 2017 09:55 IamPryda wrote: Think I am gonna try out Zoe, Kassadin and Ekko have always been my favorite mids and seems like she has some similar play patterns. And def excited to see Rammy meta in jungle what about sej I feel like I remember seeing her being played at worlds She's seeing play at Kespa Cup, so she's still good. Really likes Aftershock. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On November 29 2017 09:55 IamPryda wrote: Think I am gonna try out Zoe, Kassadin and Ekko have always been my favorite mids and seems like she has some similar play patterns. And def excited to see Rammy meta in jungle what about sej I feel like I remember seeing her being played at worlds She feels much more like your playing old nidalee imo. You have zero escapes, and other than your w, not really any actual escape/engage mobility plays. Feels like your options are just hanging around poking til someone gets cc'd or you hit an e, then going for a high damage q. With a caveat for chaotic w outplays. Compared to someone like kassadin or ekko it doesn't feel like it's ever that optimal to actually go in hard in teamfights. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On November 29 2017 12:21 GrandInquisitor wrote: I thought we had concluded that adaptive damage was calculated as whatever did more damage? This seems to contradict that. https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-pl/2017/11/ask-riot-longest-game-ever/ I was pretty sure it worked the correct way, but didn't want to say anything cause I couldn't find the original source and wasn't in the mood to get shouted down. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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