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[Patch 7.23] Zoe General Discussion - Page 9

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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8937 Posts
December 01 2017 03:12 GMT
#161
the range on q seems to be fixed to a distance from your champion when it lands. not sure if intended or not, but thats how it works anyway
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 03:19:03
December 01 2017 03:13 GMT
#162
On December 01 2017 11:54 Gahlo wrote:
Why would QQR extend the range?

Well it does extend the range if R is cast quickly. Maybe it should never do it idk but it is still a bug if it works most of the time but in a few instances does not, which is apparently related to using E.

https://www.reddit.com/r/zoemains/comments/7fy4kn/found_a_gamebreaking_zoe_bug/?sort=confidence

Thinking about it I am pretty sure this "late" extension is supposed to happen. The range of the spell not being fixed when fired but depending on your own movement is at the core of the special feel of this spell.

Off-season = best season
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 01 2017 03:23 GMT
#163
On December 01 2017 12:13 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2017 11:54 Gahlo wrote:
Why would QQR extend the range?

Well it does extend the range if R is cast quickly. Maybe it should never do it idk but it is still a bug if it works most of the time but in a few instances does not, which is apparently related to using E.

https://www.reddit.com/r/zoemains/comments/7fy4kn/found_a_gamebreaking_zoe_bug/?sort=confidence

Thinking about it I am pretty sure this "late" extension is supposed to happen. The range of the spell not being fixed when fired but depending on your own movement is at the core of the special feel of this spell.


I dunno. It's felt very "load the balista, move to aim it, let fly!" to me, which leads to a more QRQ play pattern. I think given the sheer lunacy of the damage it can do that being able to adjust after firing might be a bit much.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 01 2017 03:27 GMT
#164
On December 01 2017 12:23 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2017 12:13 Redox wrote:
On December 01 2017 11:54 Gahlo wrote:
Why would QQR extend the range?

Well it does extend the range if R is cast quickly. Maybe it should never do it idk but it is still a bug if it works most of the time but in a few instances does not, which is apparently related to using E.

https://www.reddit.com/r/zoemains/comments/7fy4kn/found_a_gamebreaking_zoe_bug/?sort=confidence

Thinking about it I am pretty sure this "late" extension is supposed to happen. The range of the spell not being fixed when fired but depending on your own movement is at the core of the special feel of this spell.


I dunno. It's felt very "load the balista, move to aim it, let fly!" to me, which leads to a more QRQ play pattern. I think given the sheer lunacy of the damage it can do that being able to adjust after firing might be a bit much.

Then let it do less dmg, that is kinda irrelevant for the point. The extension with movement definitely adds an extra layer of skill and uniqueness.
Off-season = best season
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 06:59:28
December 01 2017 06:51 GMT
#165
thought this was exactly how it was supposed to work and how it was explained to work from her video.....

nevermind I cannot read
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 01 2017 08:10 GMT
#166
No jek, dont back down. All Zoe things are intended at the moment. The goal is to re-introduce Leblanc and Nidalee style poke in a 6300 champ instead.
Freeeeeeedom
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 08:39:14
December 01 2017 08:38 GMT
#167
They should have made her RP only too!

The only issue I have with Zoe at the moment is the randomness of her W and the true damage on E. There's way too much variance on what you can get with spell thief and the bonus damage on E should just be magic it being true damage just feels like it's something they setup intentionally to change later so they could have her overtuned at release. :-/
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
December 01 2017 08:40 GMT
#168
The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes.

Wow, that copy pasta fits perfectly in this situation haha.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 16:03:51
December 01 2017 16:01 GMT
#169
--- Nuked ---
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 16:09:19
December 01 2017 16:08 GMT
#170
Well they could just only make new champs if they come up with some novel idea. I wonder if they community will handle that though.

Zoe has some cool stuff but man they missed the mark with some of her abilities. If she was more of an actual trickster instead of being this nida type annoying bullshit it would have been so much better.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
December 01 2017 17:34 GMT
#171
Tricksters in Riot is a buzzword for "glhf carries (lul)"-champions. See LeBlanc and Fizz for reference.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 22:13:47
December 01 2017 22:12 GMT
#172
I don't know did they really need to make her W like that? Sure it's a novel idea but why is that a thing? I dislike it. Her R is very cool and the way her Q interacts with it is awesome. Why does this champion also need a hard CC and the ability for free summoners?

I feel like they were going for an on hit AP champion interlacing spells with autos and ended up with an AP Nuke champ. Whats the point of her passive if EQRQ 1 shots? It's like an old AP Nidalee with more burst, hard CC and Lux passive.

I would rather see a lower damage burst with higher potential output than nuke this and nuke that oh and here's a free summoner for no reason. I like the idea of her passive and R and Q combination but combined with hard CC and free summoners is just too much.

Her numbers will get nerfed to oblivion before the next real League competition and then we won't see her again until the rework.

I feel like I got some good ideas for actual new champions rito hire me

Shoutout to Liquid Zess for getting me my account back
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
December 02 2017 11:22 GMT
#173
Riot really messed up Zoe imo, I really can't believe they would slip up and create a champion like old Nidalee, who was just cancer to play against. Massive range, low-mid CD nuke poke is not healthy. And her stun is insanely good, it can be used to either blow you up or set you up for her team.

I would really like Zoe if they gutted her damage and turned her into a support. Her stun is good enough for that, and then she could fill an interesting poke support role.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 02 2017 11:23 GMT
#174
I'd like Zoe if her eyes were the same color.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-02 18:13:41
December 02 2017 18:05 GMT
#175
I don't mind the Q damage, what gets me is the sleep hitbox. I don't get it at all, just always asleep.

Some times looks like you dodge that shit by 4 teemos and you still asleep.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 02 2017 18:16 GMT
#176
Q definitely needs to be tuned more towards bonus ap, right now if someone has not purchased mr sorc shoes and lost chapter are enough to finish someone hit by your e.

It’s so overturned that lichbane on a character with built in empowered autos is a noob trap. Why buy an item that requires you to auto when ludens splash can put you over the 100-0 threshold much safer.

I honestly think she’s workable if you make q more bonus ap reliant and make teleportation immune to her w. She is the second coming of Nidalee for sure but no heal and no cat form make her way easier to deal with ppl are just blinded by the current e>q combo damage because it is stupid.
Carrilord has arrived.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
December 02 2017 20:55 GMT
#177
I can't buy mystery champion boxes anymore (the one that cost sth like 3850 and gives you a random champion). Is it a bug or a feature?
You're now breathing manually
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-02 20:57:16
December 02 2017 20:57 GMT
#178
On December 03 2017 05:55 Sent. wrote:
I can't buy mystery champion boxes anymore (the one that cost sth like 3850 and gives you a random champion). Is it a bug or a feature?

it was essence emporium exclusive. it ended november 27th at midnight
https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/115014872088-The-Essence-Emporium-FAQ
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
December 02 2017 20:58 GMT
#179
Aww I see, thanks.
You're now breathing manually
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 02 2017 21:55 GMT
#180
On December 03 2017 05:58 Sent. wrote:
Aww I see, thanks.

I believe they said they were looking to bring the BE store back once a year, so there's that.
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