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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 22 2017 08:28 GMT
#41
Im onboard if they bring back real Nidalee
Freeeeeeedom
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
November 22 2017 08:52 GMT
#42
Zoe in action, its a bit disturbing but its also pretty nice


Zoe just doesn't seem like a very fun champion to play against when she gets all those free abilities and items. Like yesterday I watched an Ekko on stream get pushed out of lane because she got gunblade active so early in the game, and then proceeded to die to Redemption plus Comet proc (granted he could've dodged, but honestly who expects the surprise Redemption), it was just absurd. The items she can pick up are almost all incredibly powerful, and honestly right now because of her scaling she seems like a dope mid laner
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-22 10:27:14
November 22 2017 10:26 GMT
#43
On November 22 2017 17:52 DarkCore wrote:
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Zoe in action, its a bit disturbing but its also pretty nice


Zoe just doesn't seem like a very fun champion to play against when she gets all those free abilities and items. Like yesterday I watched an Ekko on stream get pushed out of lane because she got gunblade active so early in the game, and then proceeded to die to Redemption plus Comet proc (granted he could've dodged, but honestly who expects the surprise Redemption), it was just absurd. The items she can pick up are almost all incredibly powerful, and honestly right now because of her scaling she seems like a dope mid laner

Long story short, she looks kind of busted to me as well, I would assume that she is gonna eat the nerf bat at least two times before they tame her
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St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
November 22 2017 10:37 GMT
#44
Ban her every time
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 22 2017 11:37 GMT
#45
On November 22 2017 17:15 M2 wrote:


Zoe in action, its a bit disturbing but its also pretty nice

Nice play by Zoe, but holy hell did Riven misplay the fuck out of that.
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
November 22 2017 12:07 GMT
#46
This Is all part of riots plan to get people to use the actives on items. Step one is make them champion abilities so people actually appreciate them.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
November 22 2017 14:06 GMT
#47


LOL
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 22 2017 14:17 GMT
#48
another certainlyT disaster, takes 2 problematic competitive champs in AP nid and leblanc, combines them and adds a hard CC so you cant miss the nuke, good stuff. I don't see how this kit can ever exist in a healthy state, either the Q does enough damage to be viable or its weak enough where shes pushed out
I come in for the scraps
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
November 22 2017 15:06 GMT
#49
I dunno. She seems like a weaker version of old LB but with the trolly W instead of super ezmode burst and mobility. The randomness of W from minions is honestly the only issue I have with her atm, that being said I think it's way too hard to estimate her power since her kit is so complex both playing her and playing against her is something completely new.
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
November 22 2017 15:29 GMT
#50
I was always under the impression that Riot was trying to eliminate randomness in the game, and make it more predictable. But elemental dragons and now this champ have made me think otherwise.

Really don't like the RNG of her w because there's no real counterplay to it, which is indicator of poor balancing. If Zoe gets Ardent active, how do you beat that? Ghostblade? Free damage. Solari? Ez team fight.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
November 22 2017 17:14 GMT
#51
I think that's a slight overstatement, but I agree with the sentiment. Picking up what the other team uses is ok because you can play around that. But the random drops are a problem. It is a bad trend when you look at it with the klepto drops including the skill potion which is busted.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 22 2017 17:38 GMT
#52
She also did something like 25-30% of Riven's health with her q, not even buffed by ult, and without much items. What the hell.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 22 2017 17:42 GMT
#53
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
November 22 2017 18:07 GMT
#54
On November 23 2017 02:38 Alaric wrote:
She also did something like 25-30% of Riven's health with her q, not even buffed by ult, and without much items. What the hell.


It's also her main form of damage, if she doesn't hit it she does very little damage. Exactly like old Nidalee, who was removed for being such a headache to play against. Can't wait to see Faker destroying people with her skillshots.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
November 22 2017 18:47 GMT
#55
and once again Riot releases a game mode that is unreal garbage and will be forgotten about in 2 weeks.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-22 23:38:53
November 22 2017 23:38 GMT
#56
On November 23 2017 03:07 DarkCore wrote:
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On November 23 2017 02:38 Alaric wrote:
She also did something like 25-30% of Riven's health with her q, not even buffed by ult, and without much items. What the hell.


It's also her main form of damage, if she doesn't hit it she does very little damage. Exactly like old Nidalee, who was removed for being such a headache to play against. Can't wait to see Faker destroying people with her skillshots.

Old nid didn't have a way to lock you in place. Spears being invisible are different from getting hit by a skillshot that tagged you from 2k away that you have to dodge.

A Q combo from Zoe does almost as much damage while she also has setup.
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
November 23 2017 08:11 GMT
#57
I'm not arguing that Zoe is balanced, someone pointed out she's like some hybrid LeBlanc/Nidalee champ, which is absolutely true.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 23 2017 08:54 GMT
#58
The reason people will rightfully QQ about Zoe, even if she isn't faceroll OP, is because if she was a champ from the original cast they would Eve/Olaf/etc her and slate her for a rework ala the many Ryze, Leblanc, and Eve reworks. They would say something about the play style being oppressive, her being too hard to hard engage on for such a good poke champ, too much RNG on her W, etc.

Its not that I even dislike her, its just that its rude.
Freeeeeeedom
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8939 Posts
November 23 2017 11:22 GMT
#59
can u ever get high BE champs from capsules? i mean champions that cost 4800 or 6300.
i swear ive gotten like 5 annie shards and soraka shards or some other useless shit and nothing decent. i dont have a lot of champions so it shouldnt be this hard to get a shard thats worth playing and i dont already own...
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
November 23 2017 11:29 GMT
#60
On November 23 2017 20:22 evilfatsh1t wrote:
can u ever get high BE champs from capsules? i mean champions that cost 4800 or 6300.
i swear ive gotten like 5 annie shards and soraka shards or some other useless shit and nothing decent. i dont have a lot of champions so it shouldnt be this hard to get a shard thats worth playing and i dont already own...

You can but it's rare.

I don't mind riot releasing fun champs rather than well-balanced champs so don't really care too much about Zoe. Here I thought trynd had too much rng and then they made this shit.
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