EPT[Patch 7.23] Zoe General Discussion - Page 2
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Gahlo
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LightningStrike
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On November 21 2017 22:26 Gahlo wrote: Anybody having trouble logging into the NA server? I am having trouble logging on NA atm too thought it was just me. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On November 21 2017 22:26 Gahlo wrote: Anybody having trouble logging into the NA server? yeah. maintenance extended 3 hours | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On November 21 2017 22:25 General_Winter wrote: Don't think I've seen it mentioned, but I like the predator buff. I had been using it pre buff and having good luck with it. I'd been running it on Jungle Cho to surprising success. Basicly once you have boots and level 6, you can pop predator turn on E and just run at people with the massive extra move speed. Apply E to slow, then hit Q when they are slowed and easy to hit, then W while they are knocked up and R when they are silenced. If they dash away from the initial run, you can usually just catch up since predator makes you so fast. It's pretty good when your coolddowns are up, and this is a buff to cooldowns so I'm happy. I don't really know what to make of Predator. I would have thought it'd be an incredible enchant on anyone that builds Righteous Glory, but it seems to be the lowest win rate keystone on just about everybody. Hopefully this cooldown buff makes it viable. | ||
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Numy
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General_Winter
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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Numy
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Ansibled
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dsyxelic
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righteous glory is barely picked and just because BC has the lowest winrate out of all the items there doesnt mean its bad on darius lol the winrates there seem meaningless also predator is still pretty different from righteous glory you use predator mostly for roaming while righteous glory can be used in fights/chasing down someone which is a lot more important. RG gives more movement speed and an aoe slow with no channel time which is way more important again. | ||
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On November 22 2017 03:43 dsyxelic wrote: why are you using those stats righteous glory is barely picked and just because BC has the lowest winrate out of all the items there doesnt mean its bad on darius lol the winrates there seem meaningless also predator is still pretty different from righteous glory you use predator mostly for roaming while righteous glory can be used in fights/chasing down someone which is a lot more important. RG gives more movement speed and an aoe slow with no channel time which is way more important again. BC has the "lowest" because it's built so frequently that it necessarily normalizes to the mean Darius winrate, which is even lower. It's still a good item because it's ~+2% on a 88% built item. By contrast, Predator is rarely picked, but even then is far, far below the standard Darius winrate, about equivalent to rushing Thornmail in lane on Darius. Which, sure, obviously it's not as good as the OP Grasp right now, but given how much value Darius gets out of RG you'd think it wouldn't be literally the absolute worst keystone on Darius. RG/Predator are in fact different, but honestly, the difference is pretty minimal on Darius. There's not going to be a lot of teamfights where Darius is like "oh I better save Righteous Glory for later". | ||
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
On November 22 2017 03:51 GrandInquisitor wrote: BC has the "lowest" because it's built so frequently that it necessarily normalizes to the mean Darius winrate, which is even lower. It's still a good item because it's ~+2% on a 88% built item. By contrast, Predator is rarely picked, but even then is far, far below the standard Darius winrate, about equivalent to rushing Thornmail in lane on Darius. Which, sure, obviously it's not as good as the OP Grasp right now, but given how much value Darius gets out of RG you'd think it wouldn't be literally the absolute worst keystone on Darius. RG/Predator are in fact different, but honestly, the difference is pretty minimal on Darius. There's not going to be a lot of teamfights where Darius is like "oh I better save Righteous Glory for later". what do you mean by your last part? why would he be saving righteous glory? my point is that righteous glory 1) can be used in lane far more effectively than predator can to chase down/slow the enemy laner. can in some scenarios be used defensively to instantly use the slow when trying to run away 2) roaming isnt very important on darius so predator loses value there and RG is not typically used for roaming those are 2 big advantages / key differences righteous glory has from predator so it shouldnt be a surprise that predator is not good on darius if righteous glory is good on him | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
lmao | ||
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
yea that combo is what reminded me of old leblanc with her w q ult poke i was watching qt play with a zoe support, she looks broken as fuck with jhin synergy lol sleep -> jhin w -> jhin auto + q + zoe q + auto = dead | ||
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General_Winter
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phyvo
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
Ashe: 28k damage total, 1034 from Press the Attack Darius: 33k damage total, 5330 from Dark Harvest Nasus: 44k damage total, 1796 from Grasp Galio: 22k damage total, 1131 from Electrocute The best part is that Dark Harvest isn't even the overall best ARAM mastery. - the best ARAM mastery isn't even a keystone. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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VayneAuthority
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M2
Bulgaria4186 Posts
Zoe in action, its a bit disturbing but its also pretty nice  | ||
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