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On August 31 2016 23:59 MuddyJam wrote:
What are some good tip/guide for learning Yasuo? I always feed on him. Would I just have to learn him on a second ID with way lower MMR?
The same as all champions pretty much, spam games. He has quite a few dashes through camps in the jungle you should learn too, I'd imagine there's videos about them on YouTube.
Watching some Voyboy Yasuo games (think there's plenty on his YouTube channel) could be helpful too, he's usually pretty good at explaining why/what he's doing and is a pretty good Yasuo player too.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On September 01 2016 01:00 cLutZ wrote:
Your mistake is thinking that there are unacceptable gameplay decisions in response to frustration and anger. Lets stipulate that the game is decided to no fault of persons 1-3 because of afk feeders 4, 5. If person 1 wants to /dance his anger away, 2 wants to all in his lane opponent over and over, and 3 wants to piss off the enemy team by infinite wave clearing as Anivia those are all reasonable ways to deal with the frustration. That should be fairly non-controversial.
On top of that, IMO I'd say if one goes on a 40 page racist, sexist, homophobic tirade thats got to be severely discounted. Probably not even counted on the record.
There certainly are unacceptable gameplay decisions in response to frustration and anger. If I miss my first cs and respond by intentionally feeding for the rest of the game, it should be non-controversial that that's an unreasonable response.
This is exactly the point I was trying to get at. We can throw strawman examples at each other all day and it doesn't do anything. On the whole, though, I find my teammates on average give up too early instead of giving up too late.
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On August 31 2016 20:25 Gahlo wrote:
Who knows anymore. The rune system is so antiquated that it needs a massive overhaul. Problem is that needs an off season to fix but Riot loves reinventing the jungle and/or masteries every year.
Now, if we're talking "value", that's entirely different. Things like MR glyphs are a very general thing. You can stick them in almost any rune page on any champion and they'd be okay. Riot can afford them being a low value IP sink because everybody wants them. When it comes to CDR glyphs, in either form, not many champions want them. You'll probably get some mages(I think? Been a while since I've looked at mid runes), AD Casters like Riven, and possibly junglers so it doesn't make much sense for Riot to make them available cheap. By having their IP costs high they can capitalize on the few times they'll be purchased. Though some runes are just straight garbage and cost too much so idk.
they've already stated that runes are getting an overhaul after the new client launches
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@JimmiC, I got dumpster-ed in lane so guess again  ! also you make me sound like budget Tony Stark.
@all how long does it take to level an account now that xp for each level has been lowered?
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On August 31 2016 23:59 MuddyJam wrote:
What are some good tip/guide for learning Yasuo? I always feed on him. Would I just have to learn him on a second ID with way lower MMR?
This tip applies to all champions but especially to Yasuo: stop trying to make great plays whenever you can. Yasuo has huge outplay potential which often baits Yasuo players into taking fights they shouldn't. My winrates on Janna and Tristana increased greaty after I stopped trying to insec enemy champions in every teamfight.
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On September 01 2016 04:24 Sent. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 23:59 MuddyJam wrote:
What are some good tip/guide for learning Yasuo? I always feed on him. Would I just have to learn him on a second ID with way lower MMR? This tip applies to all champions but especially to Yasuo: stop trying to make great plays whenever you can. Yasuo has huge outplay potential which often baits Yasuo players into taking fights they shouldn't. My winrates on Janna and Tristana increased greaty after I stopped trying to insec enemy champions in every teamfight.
I disagree with this. Yasuo is a champion that relies heavily on his outplay potential, not trying to make them means you're not going to learn them. It'd be like trying to learn Riven and not trying combos or Lee Sin without wards.
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yeah yasuo needs to outplay people with fancy dashes and knockups and shit. otherwise hes a melee adc who just gets wrecked as he tries to auto people (why are you even playing him)
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You shouldn't play him regardless...
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I meant you should learn his basics first before doing shit like ulting your lane opponent under tower just because your max range tornado hit him. I don't think Yasuo is like Riven who has to get fed early to be useful. You can leave the lane with no kills and still carry the game. Most Yasuos I met don't understand that.
But yeah I agree with cLutZ, every time you pick that champion an innocent kitten dies
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@all how long does it take to level an account now that xp for each level has been lowered?
Way too long still, I'm trying to level an account to play only Vayne but it's like a chore.
I didn't know that autofill also applied to Normal Draft  . At least instead of waiting 30 minutes for a stomp where I can't practice the champion I want, I can wait 5 minutes for a role I didn't pick.
Who knows anymore. The rune system is so antiquated that it needs a massive overhaul. Problem is that needs an off season to fix but Riot loves reinventing the jungle and/or masteries every year.
That is so true. I hope they leave masteries alone this season, after the recent nerfs they seem to be in a good spot, runes need to become more accessible, it's already a drag acquiring all the champions, and the total amount of IP you have to spend just keeps going up.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/community/q/ask-riot-runes-splash-art-and-buttons
There's an interesting quote here:
While players will eventually try all kinds of skill orders, we try and make sure that for a player trying a champion for the first time, maxing Q is a decent choice.
Is there any champion in the game where maxing Q first is really bad? Off the top of my head I can only think of Fiddlesticks and Anivia.
Another interesting question along the same lines is this:
What champion suffers the most if you are forced to max EWQ?
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Q max on Aatrox is at least suboptimal.
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plenty of champions actually jax,fizz,irelia, lux, garen amumu, shyv etc
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On September 02 2016 06:58 GrandInquisitor wrote:http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/community/q/ask-riot-runes-splash-art-and-buttonsThere's an interesting quote here: Show nested quote +While players will eventually try all kinds of skill orders, we try and make sure that for a player trying a champion for the first time, maxing Q is a decent choice. Is there any champion in the game where maxing Q first is really bad? Off the top of my head I can only think of Fiddlesticks and Anivia. Another interesting question along the same lines is this: What champion suffers the most if you are forced to max EWQ?
theres a bunch but the worst i can think of
for Q
-fizz
-rammus
-shaco
-talon
-shyvana
-kogmaw
for EWQ
again a lot of champions are pretty bad with EWQ but the ones that drop off the hardest from the bad skill order from what I can think of are
(alot of marksman/ranged characters had bad EWQ orders but eh at least they are ranged)
-katarina
-karthus
-diana
-evelynn
-kha
-rumble
-udyr
-kench
-zed
-and fking zilean
also really wanna put ezreal but i think with just 1 point in q he'd still be better than most champs here with just 1 q
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On September 02 2016 07:47 kongoline wrote:
plenty of champions actually jax,fizz,irelia, lux, garen amumu, shyv etc
Q max on Jax is not unusual - certainly in a matchup like Jax v Ekko you want to maxing Q for the reduced leap cooldown. Won't disagree with the others, though it's not really the end of the world if you max Q on most of them.
I think the other category of "worst Q maxers" are the tanky junglers with a Q dash like Amumu and Sejuani. But even Vi is good with a Q max.
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On September 02 2016 07:53 GrandInquisitor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 07:47 kongoline wrote:
plenty of champions actually jax,fizz,irelia, lux, garen amumu, shyv etc Q max on Jax is not unusual - certainly in a matchup like Jax v Ekko you want to maxing Q for the reduced leap cooldown. Won't disagree with the others, though it's not really the end of the world if you max Q on most of them. I think the other category of "worst Q maxers" are the tanky junglers with a Q dash like Amumu and Sejuani. But even Vi is good with a Q max.
Once upon a time Q max was the way to go on both Sej and Amumu as well
I think overwhelmingly E tends to be utility skills; there are a few champs where you max E and they tend to be mages (Lux, Malz, Viktor) and then everyone else gets E last, but even among champs that max E or W, maxing Q isn't actually terrible. For champs that don't max Q, it's rarely because Q is pure utility. Malz and Fiddle and maybe Twitch? But they can all be fine with a Q 2nd max, whereas out of the champs that max E last, a lot of them have some flexibility on Q or W first, and then it is definitely E last (e.g. Sivir)
#1 champ that gets most boned by EWQ is probably Nocturne since E and W do nothing.
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Sej, yes. Amumu, never. Not even the beta. This was before there were any jungle items and people were trying to jungle with champions besides Nunu and WW. Amumu E first for dmg reduction.
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On September 03 2016 06:59 Goumindong wrote:
Janna.
What if you're going AP janna?
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