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[Patch 6.17] 8th Rek'Sai Nerf General Discussion - Page 2

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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
August 24 2016 13:53 GMT
#21
On August 24 2016 16:51 M2 wrote:
is the patch up on EUNE? Never saw the client downloading stuff and updating

I suppose it'll first be up after the 12 hour maintenance tomorrow.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
August 24 2016 14:08 GMT
#22
Rek'sai noooo. Won't be the end of Rek'sai in competitive (people will shift towards E max), but grag got destroyed.
Que Sera Sera
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-24 17:52:18
August 24 2016 14:27 GMT
#23
The Vi change on Q knockback might seem weird, but it's actually the result of Riot reaching out to otp Vi player Super Metroid. He's a west coast player, and he has been complaining that since the server move his old BnB combo of Q>auto>E>Ult went from being garunteed to having to get lucky. He's been saying for a long time that this buff along with Gragas and Reksai being not so OP is all she needed, this patch seems to address those issues.

On August 24 2016 21:11 Alaric wrote:
The knock-up duration wasn't per level, but depending on the charge time before dashing iirc.


The confusion here is that Q never listed the duration of the knockback, it was actually unknown. There is conflicting information between the patchnotes and Vi's designer. When Gypsylord messaged Metroid to ask him about Vi buffs, Metroid asked him how the knockback worked and he was told it was .5 seconds period (no variation like listed in the notes).

Here is where I get a little unsure of what was actually changed, Metroid said if he could have 1 buff it would be to extend the knockback so he could execute his old BnB combo, that had a 100% execution rate when west coast ping was the best ping. Gypsylord responded that he felt this buff was too much, and that it probably wouldn't happen, he instead said he would ask the dev team to up the refresh time(client to server check) on Vi's knockup, thinking perhaps this would increase consistency on being able to do the combo or not.

So he's Gypsylord was either wrong on the duration of the old knockup, or he changed his mind on just flat buffing the knockup, but I am sure it is intended as a buff at all levels as I would expect their QA team to try executing the combo at faked ping, but it's riot so who knows lol.

UPDATE:
apparently the knockup was .5 static, however the standard server check rate allowed for a variation of .5-.75, in other words it was a completely random variable, the ability has been buffed to .7 as well as having a flag to refresh the status with the server at a higher rate, to make it as consistently .7 as possible barring players with super bad ping etc. With this buff in place the Vi Q>auto>e>ult combo should be guaranteed before the player is able to flash/react.
Carrilord has arrived.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 24 2016 15:13 GMT
#24
On August 24 2016 23:08 AdsMoFro wrote:
Rek'sai noooo. Won't be the end of Rek'sai in competitive (people will shift towards E max), but grag got destroyed.


Riot doesn't like junglers. Since start of season they've just nerfed all the good ones.

No jungle buffs ever.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
August 24 2016 15:55 GMT
#25
The solution is to bring back jungle Aatrox. Probably the champion on top of Riot's hate list after the Yorick rework.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
August 24 2016 16:19 GMT
#26
On August 25 2016 00:13 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2016 23:08 AdsMoFro wrote:
Rek'sai noooo. Won't be the end of Rek'sai in competitive (people will shift towards E max), but grag got destroyed.


Riot doesn't like junglers. Since start of season they've just nerfed all the good ones.

No jungle buffs ever.

Kindred has buffs on PBE. They're playing a dangerous game, though, because with even a little bit of numbers buffs Kindred can easily become way too dominant.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 24 2016 16:21 GMT
#27
Yea, kindred is always gonna be dangerous to balance as long as jungle clear speed is so important.
Freeeeeeedom
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
August 24 2016 16:22 GMT
#28
On August 25 2016 01:19 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2016 00:13 iCanada wrote:
On August 24 2016 23:08 AdsMoFro wrote:
Rek'sai noooo. Won't be the end of Rek'sai in competitive (people will shift towards E max), but grag got destroyed.


Riot doesn't like junglers. Since start of season they've just nerfed all the good ones.

No jungle buffs ever.

Kindred has buffs on PBE. They're playing a dangerous game, though, because with even a little bit of numbers buffs Kindred can easily become way too dominant.


wtf, why? she good enough to be picked in lck finals already
You're now breathing manually
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 24 2016 17:05 GMT
#29
On August 25 2016 01:22 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2016 01:19 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On August 25 2016 00:13 iCanada wrote:
On August 24 2016 23:08 AdsMoFro wrote:
Rek'sai noooo. Won't be the end of Rek'sai in competitive (people will shift towards E max), but grag got destroyed.


Riot doesn't like junglers. Since start of season they've just nerfed all the good ones.

No jungle buffs ever.

Kindred has buffs on PBE. They're playing a dangerous game, though, because with even a little bit of numbers buffs Kindred can easily become way too dominant.


wtf, why? she good enough to be picked in lck finals already

Because all the meta junglers were banned/picked and Kindred is a confort champion for Score, who spent most of his career playing AD.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 24 2016 17:16 GMT
#30
That reminds me of how bad Kalista is now. Any idea what they are going to do with her? She went from broken good to broken bad.
Freeeeeeedom
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
August 24 2016 17:36 GMT
#31
On August 25 2016 02:16 cLutZ wrote:
That reminds me of how bad Kalista is now. Any idea what they are going to do with her? She went from broken good to broken bad.

Hopefully they delete her.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
August 24 2016 17:42 GMT
#32
On August 25 2016 02:05 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2016 01:22 Sent. wrote:
On August 25 2016 01:19 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On August 25 2016 00:13 iCanada wrote:
On August 24 2016 23:08 AdsMoFro wrote:
Rek'sai noooo. Won't be the end of Rek'sai in competitive (people will shift towards E max), but grag got destroyed.


Riot doesn't like junglers. Since start of season they've just nerfed all the good ones.

No jungle buffs ever.

Kindred has buffs on PBE. They're playing a dangerous game, though, because with even a little bit of numbers buffs Kindred can easily become way too dominant.


wtf, why? she good enough to be picked in lck finals already

Because all the meta junglers were banned/picked and Kindred is a confort champion for Score, who spent most of his career playing AD.


I'm not saying Kindred is (are?) a top tier jungler but it would be better if she didn't get any buffs while the 4 junglers banned in that game (Reksai, Gragas, Nidalee and Elise) got nerfed.
You're now breathing manually
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 24 2016 18:08 GMT
#33
Or instead of nerfing 3 tiers of strong junglers they could buff shitty junglers.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
August 24 2016 18:12 GMT
#34
We don't have time to experiment with dozens of shitty junglers before Worlds.
You're now breathing manually
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-24 18:17:47
August 24 2016 18:13 GMT
#35
With Gragas and Reksai dead jungle will be fine.

Reksai isn't actually going to be dead anyway.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-24 18:16:59
August 24 2016 18:15 GMT
#36
ye nid, graves, elise every game will be so much better /s
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-24 18:21:18
August 24 2016 18:21 GMT
#37
On August 25 2016 03:15 kongoline wrote:
ye nid, graves, elise every game will be so much better /s

Reksai (still) and Kindred will probably be the among the strongest, but there are also champions like Eve/Lee SIn/J4/Vi that can be decent.

In other news

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/competitive/riot-pls-ranked-pls
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
August 24 2016 18:37 GMT
#38
only 1 year too late
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 24 2016 19:02 GMT
#39
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 24 2016 19:24 GMT
#40
On August 25 2016 03:21 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2016 03:15 kongoline wrote:
ye nid, graves, elise every game will be so much better /s

Reksai (still) and Kindred will probably be the among the strongest, but there are also champions like Eve/Lee SIn/J4/Vi that can be decent.

In other news

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/competitive/riot-pls-ranked-pls


But them being good isn't them actually being good, it is the old stuff that was better not existing anymore.

To it just means junglers have less control on the game and oh well I guess.

It was too easy to plug 3 holed in the boat with one plug so now they geto to do it by selecting the plugs that are a standard size smaller!
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