[Patch 6.17] 8th Rek'Sai Nerf General Discussion - Page 3

On August 24 2016 23:27 Slusher wrote:
The Vi change on Q knockback might seem weird, but it's actually the result of Riot reaching out to otp Vi player Super Metroid. He's a west coast player, and he has been complaining that since the server move his old BnB combo of Q>auto>E>Ult went from being garunteed to having to get lucky. He's been saying for a long time that this buff along with Gragas and Reksai being not so OP is all she needed, this patch seems to address those issues.



The confusion here is that Q never listed the duration of the knockback, it was actually unknown. There is conflicting information between the patchnotes and Vi's designer. When Gypsylord messaged Metroid to ask him about Vi buffs, Metroid asked him how the knockback worked and he was told it was .5 seconds period (no variation like listed in the notes).

Here is where I get a little unsure of what was actually changed, Metroid said if he could have 1 buff it would be to extend the knockback so he could execute his old BnB combo, that had a 100% execution rate when west coast ping was the best ping. Gypsylord responded that he felt this buff was too much, and that it probably wouldn't happen, he instead said he would ask the dev team to up the refresh time(client to server check) on Vi's knockup, thinking perhaps this would increase consistency on being able to do the combo or not.

So he's Gypsylord was either wrong on the duration of the old knockup, or he changed his mind on just flat buffing the knockup, but I am sure it is intended as a buff at all levels as I would expect their QA team to try executing the combo at faked ping, but it's riot so who knows lol.

UPDATE:
apparently the knockup was .5 static, however the standard server check rate allowed for a variation of .5-.75, in other words it was a completely random variable, the ability has been buffed to .7 as well as having a flag to refresh the status with the server at a higher rate, to make it as consistently .7 as possible barring players with super bad ping etc. With this buff in place the Vi Q>auto>e>ult combo should be guaranteed before the player is able to flash/react.

On August 25 2016 06:36 General_Winter wrote:
On champion gg the JGs with the best win rates are all odd picks like skarner or Kogmaw or Ap picks like Sol or fiddle. (I actually like sol a lot if your team helps you ward for the first few levels).

Think any of these guys have what it takes for the big time?

On August 25 2016 09:54 iCanada wrote:
Weird question...

Has LoL's patcher been kicking the shit out of anyone else's CPU recently?

I have an i7-4770 with hyperthreading turned off for work applications, and this Patch is literally maxing out half my cores.

o.O

Would turning Hyperthreading back on make that much of a difference? Strange.

On August 25 2016 05:16 Kinie wrote:

Personally, the most likely "non-meta" junglers that I see becoming meta are Vi, Diana, and J4, all because they carry the Ori ball really, really well, and her ult buff is pretty huge, especially when you consider she tends to build Athenes/Morellos first item. Having her ult be up for basically every team fight starting at one 20% CDR item by level 6 is insane. For arguement's sake, imagine a team comp of Rumble top, one of these 3 junglers, and Ori mid. The wombo combo is insane.