[Patch 6.17] 8th Rek'Sai Nerf General Discussion - Page 6

Goumindong

United States3529 Posts

September 02 2016 23:29 GMT

#101

Maybe for ARAM. But Q max is real bad for every other game mode. It's 1 second of CD and 25-40 damage. E is more AD and 40 shield. W is 55 damage and more slow and more passive move speed. Q CD is long enough you're unlikely to get >1 in a fight without heavy CDR anyway (min value is 10, same as E). I would say that E max is probably better for ARAM now too

Back in the day when you could play Janna as AP you would max Q only until you could clear a wave and then W. You can't ever really clear a wave with it now though. And it was much better then in terms of per-level strength.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

September 03 2016 02:58 GMT

#102

At some point you'd put 2 points into E for Amumu's first clear, then max Q. Maybe it wasn't the optimal build, but when you built some AP on him (that was post spirit stone introduction though) and maxed Q you'd just gank people and explode them.

Then Riot nerfed ratios on Q and R.

Frolossus

United States4779 Posts

September 03 2016 18:37 GMT

#103

On September 03 2016 06:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
Sej, yes. Amumu, never. Not even the beta. This was before there were any jungle items and people were trying to jungle with champions besides Nunu and WW. Amumu E first for dmg reduction.

tears if you started blue
E if you did dan dinh route

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

September 05 2016 01:51 GMT

#104

On September 03 2016 08:29 Goumindong wrote:
Maybe for ARAM. But Q max is real bad for every other game mode. It's 1 second of CD and 25-40 damage. E is more AD and 40 shield. W is 55 damage and more slow and more passive move speed. Q CD is long enough you're unlikely to get >1 in a fight without heavy CDR anyway (min value is 10, same as E). I would say that E max is probably better for ARAM now too

Back in the day when you could play Janna as AP you would max Q only until you could clear a wave and then W. You can't ever really clear a wave with it now though. And it was much better then in terms of per-level strength.

Qmax was the build on him for a few seasons. You got 2 in E, 1 in W for clear, then Q max.

Riot didn't like it because Mummy would nearly 2shot botlane.

LOL.

Amui

Canada10567 Posts

September 05 2016 23:03 GMT

#105

On September 05 2016 10:51 iCanada wrote:

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Qmax was the build on him for a few seasons. You got 2 in E, 1 in W for clear, then Q max.

Riot didn't like it because Mummy would nearly 2shot botlane.

LOL.

Yeah I remember some ratio/base damage nerfs specifically directed at stopping amumu from just flash RQ to pick up double kills bot basically solo.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

September 07 2016 16:38 GMT

#106

Bandage toss had a 1.0 but you still maxed it second even on full ap builds like the Azingy build.

Q max just farms way to slow, you could get like whatever number of kills you want to name but having to choose between auto attacking or spending all of your mana to clear one camp, vs. E max, spamming e and being tankier for free, it's actually not even a question if you tried it even once.