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[Patch 6.17] 8th Rek'Sai Nerf General Discussion - Page 4

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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 29 2016 16:18 GMT
#61
When I hit something in fog of war with a skillshot that normally makes a sound whenever it hits something, it no longer makes a sound. Is that a new change they introduced this patch?
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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
August 29 2016 19:11 GMT
#62
On August 26 2016 08:57 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 06:58 JonnyLaw wrote:
I have a Swain question. On Champion.gg the most common skill order is q > w > e. E only gives dmg now with the flat 205 dmg increase. Maxing W gives a lnger root duration and seems better to me. Any thoughts?


I been playing tons of swain and I can confirm q>w>e these days. I also like to start q because I like to get level 2 first and teh bird does good at poke plus killing the minions. I do get e second but I max q then w then E.



I like starting E vs melee champs. The dot and empowered autos still let me hit 2 first in most lanes.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 29 2016 21:05 GMT
#63
On August 30 2016 01:18 Scip wrote:
When I hit something in fog of war with a skillshot that normally makes a sound whenever it hits something, it no longer makes a sound. Is that a new change they introduced this patch?

It's probably just bugged.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 30 2016 06:40 GMT
#64
Kog is so broken right now. Might be seeing some protect the kog comps again during worlds
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-30 15:43:37
August 30 2016 15:43 GMT
#65
On August 30 2016 15:40 MooMooMugi wrote:
Kog is so broken right now. Might be seeing some protect the kog comps again during worlds

I dunno. After seeing RNG destroy a kog comp with a simple run fast+singed I'm not so sure. I'm pretty excited to see what junglers are going to be the most prevalent after Reksai and Gragas nerfs, I guess Elise will be P/B.

That and Kled, he can make for some rediculously entertaining plays.
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-30 23:35:46
August 30 2016 15:48 GMT
#66
kog is saddest rework riot did so far, they changed perfectly fine champion which was viable both as AD and AP into braindead a-move champ abused by scripters
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
August 30 2016 20:44 GMT
#67
Did everyone from channel LiquidPractice quit? My friend list is (1/104)
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MuddyJam
Profile Joined September 2014
535 Posts
August 31 2016 02:02 GMT
#68
is refusing to open mid reportable?
had a game with 2 people ragequit at 10 minutes one had run it up mid and was 0/7. Game ended up drawn out because the sup morg would just wave clear and enemy farmed her and the adc for kda.

not asking as QQ thing, just weird as in this situation I not sure what rules are on games that are clearly lost and people refuse to ff.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-31 02:25:54
August 31 2016 02:25 GMT
#69
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8939 Posts
August 31 2016 06:01 GMT
#70
playing with a 'gg this game is fucked lets open mid' mentality should be bannable imo. why play the game if you tilt that easily?
one of the things i liked more about dota; theres no surrender button. you could be playing 4v5 but due to no surrender you play till the end anyway, and some teams will still find a way to win.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 31 2016 06:45 GMT
#71
On August 31 2016 11:02 MuddyJam wrote:
is refusing to open mid reportable?
had a game with 2 people ragequit at 10 minutes one had run it up mid and was 0/7. Game ended up drawn out because the sup morg would just wave clear and enemy farmed her and the adc for kda.

not asking as QQ thing, just weird as in this situation I not sure what rules are on games that are clearly lost and people refuse to ff.

Obviously not reportable. It is sad when people like wasting time but can't really do much about it (not that reporting does anything anyway). There aren't really any "rules" to opening mid.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
August 31 2016 10:59 GMT
#72
I cant quite understand something regarding the rune system. Why they vary so much in price? If one subset of runes (e.g. MR glyphs) are equal in value as another subset from the same kind (e.g. CDR glyphs) then why the price gap? and vice-verse if the expensive ones bring more value, then where goes Riot's policy of IP/RP buys not influencing game balance?
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 31 2016 11:25 GMT
#73
Who knows anymore. The rune system is so antiquated that it needs a massive overhaul. Problem is that needs an off season to fix but Riot loves reinventing the jungle and/or masteries every year.

Now, if we're talking "value", that's entirely different. Things like MR glyphs are a very general thing. You can stick them in almost any rune page on any champion and they'd be okay. Riot can afford them being a low value IP sink because everybody wants them. When it comes to CDR glyphs, in either form, not many champions want them. You'll probably get some mages(I think? Been a while since I've looked at mid runes), AD Casters like Riven, and possibly junglers so it doesn't make much sense for Riot to make them available cheap. By having their IP costs high they can capitalize on the few times they'll be purchased. Though some runes are just straight garbage and cost too much so idk.
MuddyJam
Profile Joined September 2014
535 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-31 12:37:52
August 31 2016 12:36 GMT
#74
On August 31 2016 15:01 evilfatsh1t wrote:
playing with a 'gg this game is fucked lets open mid' mentality should be bannable imo. why play the game if you tilt that easily?
one of the things I liked more about dota; theres no surrender button. you could be playing 4v5 but due to no surrender you play till the end anyway, and some teams will still find a way to win.


IF the game has TWO afk (of which YOU ARE NEITHER and they have actively ragequit not dc'd) at 13 minutes and you are down 6k gold and you refuse to believe the game is lost and "you just need to not tilt" and you can win 3v5 your an straight up idiot i'm sorry. You shouldn't tilt in situations relating to bad or toxic team or you personally falling behind but applying it to the a situation here is stupid. Your basically saying if you have a 4v5 at minions spawn and games offers a remake it should be bannable to click yes. You say if your a player down you just stop tilting.

You can have the mindset of "i will never surrender" but then claiming it should be bannable of all things if people have better things to do than play out a 3v5 makes me think you have no idea of the game.


Plz end this discussion here I don't want this to turn into a QQ thread
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 31 2016 12:40 GMT
#75
It's a gray area, since it is intentionally expediting a loss when you can't get a surrender vote. Spirit of the rules? Sure. Letter of the rule? Nah.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-31 12:58:02
August 31 2016 12:57 GMT
#76
On August 31 2016 21:36 MuddyJam wrote:
Plz end this discussion here I don't want this to turn into a QQ thread

Do I read that as "you disagree with me on the topic I came to discuss so let's close it"?
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
August 31 2016 14:22 GMT
#77
On August 31 2016 21:36 MuddyJam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 15:01 evilfatsh1t wrote:
playing with a 'gg this game is fucked lets open mid' mentality should be bannable imo. why play the game if you tilt that easily?
one of the things I liked more about dota; theres no surrender button. you could be playing 4v5 but due to no surrender you play till the end anyway, and some teams will still find a way to win.


IF the game has TWO afk (of which YOU ARE NEITHER and they have actively ragequit not dc'd) at 13 minutes and you are down 6k gold and you refuse to believe the game is lost and "you just need to not tilt" and you can win 3v5 your an straight up idiot i'm sorry. You shouldn't tilt in situations relating to bad or toxic team or you personally falling behind but applying it to the a situation here is stupid. Your basically saying if you have a 4v5 at minions spawn and games offers a remake it should be bannable to click yes. You say if your a player down you just stop tilting.

You can have the mindset of "i will never surrender" but then claiming it should be bannable of all things if people have better things to do than play out a 3v5 makes me think you have no idea of the game.


Plz end this discussion here I don't want this to turn into a QQ thread

I can already tell you how this is going to go. You're going to argue against the strawman of "no one should ever give up under any circumstances whatever". You come up with unbelievably extreme scenarios where there is literally negative chance of winning. "What if you are 3v5 at 13 minutes and down 6k gold? What if you lost every single structure, they are all full build, and you just accidentally sold all your items and don't know how to undo? What if Riot OIafs your champion on live and also everyone on the other team is release Xin Zhao?"

Then the other side is going to argue against the strawman of "I hate people who surrender as soon as anything bad happens." They come up with stupid scenarios like "this one time someone started an ff vote because we gave up first blood. This one time someone ragequit after missing a cs." As if because 1% of the time, they came back to win, that justifies wasting time in the other 99% of games.

The only real way this discussion moves forward is if you take all the games you think should have been surrendered, but weren't, against all of the games you think should not have been given up on, but were - do you have more games in the first category or the second? I think for me it's about 30/70 towards the latter. Especially in ranked, I rarely feel like my team refuses to give up, but I do often feel like my mid (and it's always my mid) goes apeshit for pretty stupid reasons.
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MuddyJam
Profile Joined September 2014
535 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-31 15:05:46
August 31 2016 14:59 GMT
#78
On August 31 2016 23:22 GrandInquisitor wrote:
You come up with unbelievably extreme scenarios where there is literally negative chance of winning. "What if you are 3v5 at 13 minutes and down 6k gold?


You mean the exact scenario I was talking about in my original post of having 2 afk?
http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/2821296157/34218861?tab=overview

The discussion was, in these EXTREME situations isn't it best to just concede and aren't you wasting your teammates time by playing it out?


What are some good tip/guide for learning Yasuo? I always feed on him. Would I just have to learn him on a second ID with way lower MMR?



@Alaric No take it as you didn't read what I had written and instead posted generic stuff about never giving up. So with people not discussing what I said and instead talking at each other rather than to the discussion is pointless.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 31 2016 15:48 GMT
#79
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 31 2016 16:00 GMT
#80
Your mistake is thinking that there are unacceptable gameplay decisions in response to frustration and anger. Lets stipulate that the game is decided to no fault of persons 1-3 because of afk feeders 4, 5. If person 1 wants to /dance his anger away, 2 wants to all in his lane opponent over and over, and 3 wants to piss off the enemy team by infinite wave clearing as Anivia those are all reasonable ways to deal with the frustration. That should be fairly non-controversial.

On top of that, IMO I'd say if one goes on a 40 page racist, sexist, homophobic tirade thats got to be severely discounted. Probably not even counted on the record.
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