EPTIt's the church of Howard.
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
It's the church of Howard. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
You could also build it on Sion (especially when Sion was OP) with Cinderhulk. Its stats are really good (HP, CDR, regen) and synergizes strongly with Sion's kit. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On October 12 2015 07:18 Ketara wrote: All praise be to the church of Howard, and its emissary lastshadow. IMO blame LS, he's doing a really bad job of emissarying. that guy is still around? | ||
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Celial
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Fildun
Netherlands4124 Posts
It's pretty good on a lot of champions, I just don't play those ^^ Oh and about people not letting you use stacks, that isn't really a problem in most of the games where I build it, usually I never run around with full stacks or only for a short while so you don't really lose a lot of the passive value. Plus the item is crazy gold efficient. May Maokai smile upon you. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
The gold generation is just extra, and situationally is actually quite good. I am convinced that in many situations in pro games it should be built and is not, and really speaks to poor theorycrafting by professional teams and their analysts. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4124 Posts
I've also never had anybody say wtf are you building or anything like that, they usually don't say anything about it or thank me after saving them with shield. The build path is also pretty good, so yeah it's just a really good item. May Maokai smile upon you | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
It's situationally really good. On jungle Rammus and jungle Nunu its like this magical dream item descended from heaven carried by angels. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Catalyst -> Locket -> Face -> armour with completing Glory and boots2 whenever needed? | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4186 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Fildun
Netherlands4124 Posts
On October 12 2015 21:56 Alaric wrote: When do you fit it on say Maokai? If you go the selfish route the core of Catalyst/Shroud (or Warden's Mal)/Cowl which is absurdly strong if you can get it timely, but 5th item (including boots) can be tardy. On the other hand rushing it isn't that interesting if you aren't grouping up. Catalyst -> Locket -> Face -> armour with completing Glory and boots2 whenever needed? Something like Catalyst -> Shroud/Cowl (Depends on enemy damage) -> FotM works pretty well in specific teamcomps. Basically you either finish Glory or you finish FotM, depending on whether you are initiating or peeling, which of course depends on the game. If you're only doing offensive stuff then FotM isn't really that great and you'd rather have Glory + resists. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On October 12 2015 22:15 nafta wrote: Problem is it isn't good until 4/5th item even on tanks in top/jungle so by the time you could get it the game is over more than likely( and it is dogshit if you aren't a tank). Yeah I think on most tanks its 4th/5th item material these days. If you're Rammus on the other hand... What other tanks get lots of bonus resists and want HP items? Top lane Alistar? | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On October 12 2015 22:08 M2 wrote: if it was cost efficient on no supports we would have seen it on pro level and riot would have nefered it :-) Pro players tend to be both selfish and slow to adapt to item pathing. We saw the same thing when back in S2(or was it s3) when locket was changed to be so good that you rushed it on top laner and got 2 on a team. A lot of pros didn't adapt to this change until way later. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On October 12 2015 22:21 Ketara wrote: Yeah I think on most tanks its 4th/5th item material these days. If you're Rammus on the other hand... What other tanks get lots of bonus resists and want HP items? Top lane Alistar? None. Even on rammus getting it that early is just ok. A lot of teams have ways to just ignore you for a bit while your w is up and then they would just os you. Obviously this is assuming the other team isn't mentally handicapped which is a stretch but still. 4th item is when you can realistically get it and even then it isn't god mode. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
It is really puzzling to me. I have to disagree with the nafta on Rammus. It's pretty obviously a 2nd or latest 3rd item buy on Rammus. Pretty sure Scips Rammus build is cinderhulk > FotM. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4124 Posts
On October 12 2015 22:28 Ketara wrote: There's endless examples of pro players being slow to adapt to item changes. It is really puzzling to me. I have to disagree with the nafta on Rammus. It's pretty obviously a 2nd or latest 3rd item buy on Rammus. Pretty sure Scips Rammus build is cinderhulk > FotM. It is, sometimes he goes cinderhulk -> locket -> FotM but otherwise what you said. Nafta, I don't really see how people can ignore you with your W up since you mostly activate it either when you get focused or when you taunt someone so in both cases you're not getting ignored. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On October 12 2015 22:28 Ketara wrote: There's endless examples of pro players being slow to adapt to item changes. It is really puzzling to me. I have to disagree with the nafta on Rammus. It's pretty obviously a 2nd or latest 3rd item buy on Rammus. Pretty sure Scips Rammus build is cinderhulk > FotM. Just because scip builds it doesn't mean it's the best build, it's strong and it fits with his play style, but there are plenty of other high elo rammus mains who rush out dmp and mobis, or whatever else. Builds are only as good as you execute them Besides, in pro play junglers get way less farm then scip tends to get in soloq, so the period where you're just on cinderhulk before you start getting big tank items is wayyy longer then it would be in a soloq game. | ||
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