[Patch 5.19] League of Legends General Discussion - Page 16

On October 09 2015 09:06 Sufficiency wrote:
I am going to argue based purely on anecdotes and circumstantial evidence here, but Platinum I is actually pretty hard - there seems to be quite a bit of LP clamping from what I have personally experienced.

You may say: "your MMR is low!". Well, on Platinum II I was gaining more than losing, then Platinum I and KABOOM I get 12-15 for winning and 20-25 for losing.

Additionally, remember when there used to be a time where Diamond V was ridiculously clamped? How do you think Riot fixed that problem? I suspect they just released some of the pressure on Diamond V and moved them to Platinum I instead. It is the natural solution.

TLDR: Platinum I is probably not as much of a failure as you may think.

On October 09 2015 09:06 Sufficiency wrote:
I am going to argue based purely on anecdotes and circumstantial evidence here, but Platinum I is actually pretty hard - there seems to be quite a bit of LP clamping from what I have personally experienced.

You may say: "your MMR is low!". Well, on Platinum II I was gaining more than losing, then Platinum I and KABOOM I get 12-15 for winning and 20-25 for losing.

Additionally, remember when there used to be a time where Diamond V was ridiculously clamped? How do you think Riot fixed that problem? I suspect they just released some of the pressure on Diamond V and moved them to Platinum I instead. It is the natural solution.

TLDR: Platinum I is probably not as much of a failure as you may think.

On October 09 2015 09:42 killerdog wrote:

They didn't shift the clamping, they just removed it from d5. The d5 was two issues, one where there was a specific bug which they fixed, and one where d5 is just a much larger range of mmr's then most other elo's.

The first issue was fixed, and their solution to the second issue seemed to be to just artificially reduce the clamping in d5 specifically, if you win 5-6 games in d5 you can get straight to d4, but you'll still have d5 mmr and be playing vs low d5 people.

P1 didn't have any clamping in it last month, and still doesn't from what i can see of people there.

On October 09 2015 10:36 krndandaman wrote:
theres no clamping any more at p1/d5

or at least, no more of the old +5/-4 bullshit

On October 09 2015 15:40 Jek wrote:
Any Draven players here? Started to pick up adc is my second role in ranked besides support, feel comfortable in botlane from tons of experience as support.

Just started spamming him in normals/teambuilder to practice him. Feels incredible strong in the current meta since he can actually kill juggernauts/tanks decently fast while still being able to peel them away with Stand Aside and kite with proper backwards use of Q+W. Doesn't hurt he also feel very strong against Vayne who's very popular too whom[right usage of 'whom'?].

My questions with him is:
1) Is it worth to suicide killing someone under tower early if you got decent stacks for the gold bonus if you have to burn flash?
2) I go Blood Thirster first, is it right? Been trying
3) What on earth to go second? Nearly everything feels good - Last Whisper, moar AD from another BF Sword item?
4) Do you even need a Shiv/Phantom Dancer due to Blood Rush and rediculous AD scaling?
5) Triforce yay or nay? Been going for it second if I start a heavy snowball.
6) Against AP assassins Banshee or Maw?


Can confirm, I dont experience excessive clamping.

On October 09 2015 01:06 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On the other hand, even if you see a Platinum I border, it's almost a mark of shame, in the same way that the Veteran Badge for someone who spent 100+ games in that tier is insulting: it is a constant and very visible reminder of your failure to get to Diamond. So it's not even better for Plat I players, the people it's supposed to benefit.

I think borders are supposed to make people feel good about their accomplishments, and adding divisions will detract from that for not much benefit. I agree that it is something worth including for D5 -> D1, or maybe even just for D1.

On October 09 2015 18:23 Prog wrote:


So being in the top 3/4% of all players is (almost) a mark of shame for you? You must be a glas half empty person.

When I finished plat I in season 3 I was proud of it. Mostly because nearly all people I played this game with were way lower ranked. Sure I tried to get diamond and failed, but I also was only barely gold in season 2 and my improvement was reflected in the ranking. I read a platinum 1 badge not as "failed to get diamond" but as "got really close to diamond". That is an achievement and certainly not a failure.

On October 09 2015 19:51 DarkCore wrote:



I remember going from Silver 2 in S3 to Diamond 5 in S4. My motivation was just playing with better people and not a troll fest, and somewhere between high Plat and D5 MMR I realized that this was the place to be.

Honestly if someone is in Plat 1, then they could very likely have made it to Diamond 5. The difference between Mid Plat1 and low D5 isn't very large, it's all about consistency.

On October 09 2015 17:26 killerdog wrote:
Any Draven players here? Started to pick up adc is my second role in ranked besides support, feel comfortable in botlane from tons of experience as support.

Just started spamming him in normals/teambuilder to practice him. Feels incredible strong in the current meta since he can actually kill juggernauts/tanks decently fast while still being able to peel them away with Stand Aside and kite with proper backwards use of Q+W. Doesn't hurt he also feel very strong against Vayne who's very popular too whom[right usage of 'whom'?].

My questions with him is:
1) Is it worth to suicide killing someone under tower early if you got decent stacks for the gold bonus if you have to burn flash?
2) I go Blood Thirster first, is it right? Been trying
3) What on earth to go second? Nearly everything feels good - Last Whisper, moar AD from another BF Sword item?
4) Do you even need a Shiv/Phantom Dancer due to Blood Rush and rediculous AD scaling?
5) Triforce yay or nay? Been going for it second if I start a heavy snowball.
6) Against AP assassins Banshee or Maw?

On October 10 2015 02:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
D5 is a good place to aim for. D4 even with a little luck. Because after that the skill level jumps significantly, D3 is nothing like D4/D5.

On October 10 2015 04:59 Fildun wrote:

From my experience D3 is very much like D4, people don't suddenly magically become way better there.

On October 10 2015 05:34 Uldridge wrote:


But D2 though! D2 is definitely significantly better than D3!