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[Patch 5.14] Bilgewater General Discussion - Page 28

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Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-28 22:56:11
July 28 2015 22:54 GMT
#541
On July 29 2015 05:35 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 05:25 Caiada wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +


It's a customizable UI, raider doing the highest level stuff, not a healer. Healers skew things because player bars are arguably more important than seeing where the fuck you are and you can't really shrink them in that game. Where's all his important shit?

Now, I'd still argue for being able to move and swap frames. But anyone arguing this UI is broadly terrible (again, lots of little problems they're working on) is ignoring a fuckton of evidence.

The real question is, for someone new to League, who has no bias towards the old HUD, what does that person want as far as customization?


Ex-motherfuckin-actly.


In WoW, if you are not a healer, all that stuff is not "important shit".


His focus target, front-right. His CDs, front and center. Buffs, front and center. HP and TP, front and center.

XDG Mata
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-28 23:17:11
July 28 2015 23:16 GMT
#542
On July 29 2015 07:44 geript wrote:
I don't think that the new HUD is absolutely god awful, terrible after playing with it for a bit. But there are a few basic things that I want.

1. I want to be able to see the timers without constantly having to press a button.

4. I want to have a set of colors that doesn't make me want to vomit every time I play. Just give players 2-3 color schemes and let them pick the one they like the best.


1: You can hit O instead of holding Tab, same as before.
4: Refer to this thread.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 28 2015 23:46 GMT
#543
I know I can hit O. I'd just prefer it be up there all the time since it can be small and won't take up much space.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 28 2015 23:54 GMT
#544
On July 29 2015 07:32 cLutZ wrote:
Also, as an aside, by shoving everything on the bottom they just exacerbated the traditional red-blue skillshot problem (particularly because you need to increase HUD size compared to the old HUD).


they deliberately left the bottom left and top right completely empty for just this reason...
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
July 29 2015 00:04 GMT
#545
On July 29 2015 08:54 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 07:32 cLutZ wrote:
Also, as an aside, by shoving everything on the bottom they just exacerbated the traditional red-blue skillshot problem (particularly because you need to increase HUD size compared to the old HUD).


they deliberately left the bottom left and top right completely empty for just this reason...

Which was smart, but there are parts of the game besides laning phase.
Freeeeeeedom
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
July 29 2015 00:20 GMT
#546
It isn't a red/blue issue anymore, its a top/bottom river issue. At least its side neutral though
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2601 Posts
July 29 2015 03:00 GMT
#547
The HUD just needs bigger fonts and champion icons. It's broadly in the right direction.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 04:45:18
July 29 2015 04:42 GMT
#548
Kind of sad, the nerfs to tank ekko. Not gonna make assassin ekko good.

It was funny to read their intent when they made him....a utility assassin so even if he can't one shot you he has utility! Herp durp, why would you build damage on him with that much utility?

I've been spamming the shit out of him full tank, its broken strong.

Dive in and try to kill someone then run away?

or

Insane initiation, a fucking 80% slow for THREE SECONDS you can apply to every member of their team with 1-2 autos, plus a 60% RANGED AOE slow to gap close, and a get out of jail free card ult if they do manage to do 10 thousand damage to you......plus you can still delete anyone below 30% HP.

PROTIP: Run him with AD/Ar/CDR/AS with ad masteries, way better jungle clear and damage since you aren't going to be building any AP, and just sit on peoples faces autoing.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 29 2015 05:50 GMT
#549
On July 29 2015 13:42 sob3k wrote:
Kind of sad, the nerfs to tank ekko. Not gonna make assassin ekko good.

It was funny to read their intent when they made him....a utility assassin so even if he can't one shot you he has utility! Herp durp, why would you build damage on him with that much utility?

I've been spamming the shit out of him full tank, its broken strong.

Dive in and try to kill someone then run away?

or

Insane initiation, a fucking 80% slow for THREE SECONDS you can apply to every member of their team with 1-2 autos, plus a 60% RANGED AOE slow to gap close, and a get out of jail free card ult if they do manage to do 10 thousand damage to you......plus you can still delete anyone below 30% HP.

PROTIP: Run him with AD/Ar/CDR/AS with ad masteries, way better jungle clear and damage since you aren't going to be building any AP, and just sit on peoples faces autoing.

AD runes suck if you have no AD ratios. The 5% missing health looks promising but if its average case is 2.5% I'm not impressed. And his clears aren't great.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 29 2015 06:17 GMT
#550
On July 29 2015 13:42 sob3k wrote:
Kind of sad, the nerfs to tank ekko. Not gonna make assassin ekko good.

It was funny to read their intent when they made him....a utility assassin so even if he can't one shot you he has utility! Herp durp, why would you build damage on him with that much utility?

I've been spamming the shit out of him full tank, its broken strong.

Dive in and try to kill someone then run away?

or

Insane initiation, a fucking 80% slow for THREE SECONDS you can apply to every member of their team with 1-2 autos, plus a 60% RANGED AOE slow to gap close, and a get out of jail free card ult if they do manage to do 10 thousand damage to you......plus you can still delete anyone below 30% HP.

PROTIP: Run him with AD/Ar/CDR/AS with ad masteries, way better jungle clear and damage since you aren't going to be building any AP, and just sit on peoples faces autoing.

Even with 5.15 tentative tank Ekko nerfs for some god awful unknown reason it's really not that major. I don't think it necessarily cuts him out of meta. I've been thinking that we'll see him top more in response to poke and the Fizz-Maokai dilemma. He's great at shoving waves and getting CS. You can build boots second to try to deny waves with the constant shoving. He has poke, multiple forms of CC, mobility and strong dive. Plus he's really strong at skirmishing which always seems to be the fotm when it gets around to worlds. I think we'll see a few different assassins come back in vogue. Other than Kassadin I'm not sure who; probably the AP assassins though.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
July 29 2015 08:00 GMT
#551
Balance aside, Riot has fucked up a couple champions design wise lately.

A utility assassin? You cannot actually be serious and think that would work without one always being better than the other.

Kalista has like 3 champion defining traits crammed onto one champ. 1. AA hopping, 2. Ally linking, 3. Rend. Entire kits could be built around these concepts, but they shoved all of them onto one.

Rek'Sai having everything a jungler could possibly want, while also being pretty brainless about it.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 29 2015 12:55 GMT
#552
wonder if riot will take something from this and improve their hud accordingly
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3f09a0/old_hud_mod/
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
July 29 2015 13:01 GMT
#553
Yay.

I hope Riot won't go out of their way to stop it.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 29 2015 13:14 GMT
#554
i hope they improve their hud so i dont have to use mods
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 29 2015 13:50 GMT
#555
Don't forget to remove it before you patch though.It's not gonna fuck up your client but it won't let you uninstall it after it starts and it will do the good old check all files real slowly while making you wonder if you pc will survive for much longer from all the resource usage.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 14:04:33
July 29 2015 13:59 GMT
#556
On July 29 2015 21:55 kongoline wrote:
wonder if riot will take something from this and improve their hud accordingly
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3f09a0/old_hud_mod/

100% this will be banned

If you can use a custom HUD, I'd sure fucking like a custom HUD that tells me when my Darius ult will kill my enemy instead of leaving him with 50 HP.

Reading that thread, I think League just needs some new drama so that all those whiners can have an outlet for their bitching. We need some league mod to be "caught" signing NDAs or Ghostcrawler to write an ask.fm post that can be taken out of context, because reading this HUD drama is like re-living those cringey Facebook visual redesign complaints all over again.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
July 29 2015 14:01 GMT
#557
On July 29 2015 22:59 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 21:55 kongoline wrote:
wonder if riot will take something from this and improve their hud accordingly
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3f09a0/old_hud_mod/

100% this will be banned

If you can use a custom HUD, I'd sure fucking like a custom HUD that tells me when my Darius ult will kill my enemy instead of leaving him with 50 HP.

This kind of HUD customisation isn't really new and never got banned before.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-29 14:03:03
July 29 2015 14:02 GMT
#558
On July 29 2015 23:01 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 22:59 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On July 29 2015 21:55 kongoline wrote:
wonder if riot will take something from this and improve their hud accordingly
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3f09a0/old_hud_mod/

100% this will be banned

If you can use a custom HUD, I'd sure fucking like a custom HUD that tells me when my Darius ult will kill my enemy instead of leaving him with 50 HP.

This kind of HUD customisation isn't really new and never got banned before.

you forget what company is in question.Until enough people start using/complaining things like this don't get changed.

Not to mention riot have no way of knowing who uses this lol.
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
July 29 2015 16:36 GMT
#559
After few plays I am starting to like the new HUD - I see two problems with it, though.
Firstly map is blueish - it is really blurry and much less readable than odl minimap
Secondly - why the fuck experience bar is in some form of curve? It is less readable than old solution.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
July 29 2015 17:37 GMT
#560
On July 29 2015 22:59 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 21:55 kongoline wrote:
wonder if riot will take something from this and improve their hud accordingly
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3f09a0/old_hud_mod/

100% this will be banned

If you can use a custom HUD, I'd sure fucking like a custom HUD that tells me when my Darius ult will kill my enemy instead of leaving him with 50 HP.

Reading that thread, I think League just needs some new drama so that all those whiners can have an outlet for their bitching. We need some league mod to be "caught" signing NDAs or Ghostcrawler to write an ask.fm post that can be taken out of context, because reading this HUD drama is like re-living those cringey Facebook visual redesign complaints all over again.

i doubt it, it isn't recreating the old hud, just loading it.
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