EPT[Patch 5.14] Bilgewater General Discussion - Page 24
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On July 28 2015 09:04 AsianEcksDragon wrote: I've been testing witting out Orianna with Nashor recently and I can't believe how much single target damage she is able to do. Her AA actually deals more single target damage than her Q by the second hit. I think I'm gonna try running Mana regen runes and just build nashor instead of Tear/Athene's/Morello. The burst is just as strong too because Nashor now grants 80 AP. numbers do not support your statement | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
With 600 AP, I was dealing 350+ magic damage. If you include her base physical damage, it gets pretty close. | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
If you want a sustained damage mage play Azir. Or Cassiopeia, or whatever the fuck people play now. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
inb4 they release game changing patch just before worlds | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On July 28 2015 11:26 kongoline wrote: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3eugn7/crumbzz_on_twitter_forced_to_spam_normals_to_get/ inb4 they release game changing patch just before worlds it's not worlds unless zed and corki are contested picks | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
do something useless- people complain - make LCS use it - people see their idols use useless thing- useless thing is now the new hot thing | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On July 28 2015 11:55 LaNague wrote: are you not used to riot yet? do something useless- people complain - make LCS use it - people see their idols use useless thing- useless thing is now the new hot thing But old viktor was better, we swear! | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
Heh. Also, I don't really like the trend of broad generalizations and/or memes as arguments. Rush is playing Devourer Shaco. Got carried so hard..... | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
On July 28 2015 10:29 Ketara wrote: Yeah you don't pick Orianna for damage. If you want a sustained damage mage play Azir. Or Cassiopeia, or whatever the fuck people play now. Not every game is OGN championship split. I like to keep an open mind and test new things. Rather than learn new champions that I am no familiar with nor interested in, I'd rather discover new ways to play one that I enjoy playing. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On July 27 2015 23:06 Numy wrote: What? I'd love for ADC not to be mandatory either. The whole setup with LoL feels so miff. Would love junglers to not be required either. ADCs should always be "required" because they provide an end game and structure to team fights. The only other options are that consistent damage APs can do enough to negate the single damage type problem or you make ability focused ADs (which already exist in the meta by way of Varus and Ez). Which seems bad because then why have armor/mr at all? The move away from ADCs would actually reduce variation because the remaining options represent fewer reasonable team compositions. ADs also provide an answer to the problem of turrets and late game they force that someone will win. Also keep in mind that it's not as if bruiser duo lanes are bad, it's just that they have to be active and win lane in order to win the game. This will almost never happen on a competitive level without buffing that makes other champions obsolete. On July 28 2015 04:47 krndandaman wrote: idk I saw someone do some math and apparently ardent censer was better? especially earlier on. zeke's gets pretty good lategame though since you essentially get near 100% crit for your adc. Math was far from correct(it overstated the effect of the AS boost, thinking it was a flat 15% dps increase rather than how it interacts with the fact that you will have some 100-130% bonus AS at that point in the game) and neglected to mention just how far ahead zekes was (far enough that a duo with censor was super dead already) or how zekes scales into the 4 and 5 item timings much much better. Edit: my math suggests that at that point in the game censor is worth about 13% DPS increase and this falls off as the game goes later and zekes is 29.5% from there until your AD buys a second PD On July 28 2015 11:56 TheHumanSensation wrote: But old viktor was better, we swear! Old viktor was better. He had a stronger laning phase and an earlier and more powerful power spike. What happened was that 1) assassins got nerfed 2) every other meta mid lane with wave clear like ziggs and xerath etc got nerfed into the ground. This made viktor both incredibly safe in lane but it also meant that there didn't exist any other team fighting mids who could also hard clear waves and stall the game. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
I think the Nashor's build probably does more damage thatn traditional builds. But in my experience trying Nashor's on AP Ezreal, it left you really vulnerable. Even with all of Ezreal's aspd scaling and escapes, putting himself in a vulnerable position to autoattack left him too open. I'm of the opinion that the standard AP builds that ignore Nashors are better for AP mids not Kayle or Teemo. Or at the least, I'd skip Runeglaive if I went mid. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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kongoline
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a1 Sovereign
Bulgaria67 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
A much more fair comparison would be Void+Athenes or Lich Bane+Athenes or Runeglaive+Athenes or something like that. From looking at that my conclusion is basically that Runeglaive is a stupid item, not that Nashors is good on Orianna. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On July 28 2015 11:56 TheHumanSensation wrote: But old viktor was better, we swear! Old Karma was better. RIP. | ||
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