Misfits poach attempt at Liquid.Quas - Page 4

On May 22 2015 20:37 Dratwka wrote:
It's pretty sad really reading most of the comments here. As a female, I find it absurd that "men" who want eSports to be considered a true "sport" don't understand the fundamentals of the "business" side of sports in general. The comments posted here, in majority, are why, to me, it seems it'll be a long time coming, within the USA, for that to even happen.

Do you even know NCAA rules for off-season? Those players are not even allowed a salary and "poaching" will pretty much wreck a college students career. When you start off by saying he's the team's #1 player, whether it's a true statement or not, then what you're suggesting, in sports parlance, is the same as if the Warriors or Bucks contact Kobe directly thinking they don't have to talk to the Lakers about his contract, IN THE OFF-SEASON. The whole idea of it is absurb. But past that, the amount of time it takes, epecially in the NA LCS setting where, at best, you get a round-robin best of 1 game series to develop your talent and team synergy, the idea that it's easy to simply replace any talent, as talentless as NA Solo Q is and the fact that Team Liquid would HAVE to get an NA player due to the 3/2 rules and Quas being a "grandfathered" player is ridiculous.

Whether you like it or not [http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2013/07/ncaa_transfer_rule_college_coaches_can_block_their_former_players_from_getting.html]
these are standard practices in sports of every genre, and I'd like to compare Challenger teams to NCAA teams becasue that's the "normal" pro-sports farming system, and think the same rules should apply in eSports: "NCAA coaches have the power to block an athlete from getting a scholarship at an entirely different university... Coaches can block a player’s “permission to contact” for a number of dumb reasons—to prevent a former assistant coach from “poaching” talent, for one—or for no discernible reason at all.. Basketball and football coaches might not want to admit it, but college athletes have to pay a penalty for switching schools. Under most circumstances, Division I transfers in football, baseball, men’s ice hockey, and men’s and women’s basketball must sit out a year before they can play again. The NCAA claims this year-off requirement is a result of those sports being “historically academically underperforming.” In practice, that restriction helps suppress player movement in the highest-revenue sports, creating a more consistent, fan-friendly product and giving coaches a greater ability to control the inflow and outflow of talent..."

In NCAA, the PLAYER cannot even PLAY for a year after transferring!! And considering a season split as if it's end of a year is like saying a player who practices year round but only actually competes in one seaon should be allowed to move teams between semesters and the team that originally spent the time & money teaching them in "practice" shouldn't get the "benefit" of it between "SEMESTERS". Sorry, whether you agree with it or not, sports is a business and the businessman, that includes colleges and PRO team owners will do what they can to "PROTECT" their investment. It's been this way for years. But if eSports fans cannot understand these concepts in sports, how on earth do you think anyone will EVER take eSports seriously as a SPORT?

On May 23 2015 00:23 Caiada wrote:
I also don't think anyone using 'female' is actually a girl, so basically that's a bunch of bullshit.

On May 23 2015 04:18 God Killer v2 wrote:


Maybe I'm dumb, but I didn't really see how gender was even relevant to that

On May 22 2015 20:37 Dratwka wrote:
It's pretty sad really reading most of the comments here. As a female, I find it absurd that "men" who want eSports to be considered a true "sport" don't understand the fundamentals of the "business" side of sports in general. The comments posted here, in majority, are why, to me, it seems it'll be a long time coming, within the USA, for that to even happen.

Do you even know NCAA rules for off-season? Those players are not even allowed a salary and "poaching" will pretty much wreck a college students career. When you start off by saying he's the team's #1 player, whether it's a true statement or not, then what you're suggesting, in sports parlance, is the same as if the Warriors or Bucks contact Kobe directly thinking they don't have to talk to the Lakers about his contract, IN THE OFF-SEASON. The whole idea of it is absurb. But past that, the amount of time it takes, epecially in the NA LCS setting where, at best, you get a round-robin best of 1 game series to develop your talent and team synergy, the idea that it's easy to simply replace any talent, as talentless as NA Solo Q is and the fact that Team Liquid would HAVE to get an NA player due to the 3/2 rules and Quas being a "grandfathered" player is ridiculous.

Whether you like it or not [http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2013/07/ncaa_transfer_rule_college_coaches_can_block_their_former_players_from_getting.html]
these are standard practices in sports of every genre, and I'd like to compare Challenger teams to NCAA teams becasue that's the "normal" pro-sports farming system, and think the same rules should apply in eSports: "NCAA coaches have the power to block an athlete from getting a scholarship at an entirely different university... Coaches can block a player’s “permission to contact” for a number of dumb reasons—to prevent a former assistant coach from “poaching” talent, for one—or for no discernible reason at all.. Basketball and football coaches might not want to admit it, but college athletes have to pay a penalty for switching schools. Under most circumstances, Division I transfers in football, baseball, men’s ice hockey, and men’s and women’s basketball must sit out a year before they can play again. The NCAA claims this year-off requirement is a result of those sports being “historically academically underperforming.” In practice, that restriction helps suppress player movement in the highest-revenue sports, creating a more consistent, fan-friendly product and giving coaches a greater ability to control the inflow and outflow of talent..."

In NCAA, the PLAYER cannot even PLAY for a year after transferring!! And considering a season split as if it's end of a year is like saying a player who practices year round but only actually competes in one seaon should be allowed to move teams between semesters and the team that originally spent the time & money teaching them in "practice" shouldn't get the "benefit" of it between "SEMESTERS". Sorry, whether you agree with it or not, sports is a business and the businessman, that includes colleges and PRO team owners will do what they can to "PROTECT" their investment. It's been this way for years. But if eSports fans cannot understand these concepts in sports, how on earth do you think anyone will EVER take eSports seriously as a SPORT?