EPT[Patch 5.7] More Executes General Discussion - Page 55
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On April 26 2015 00:23 NeoIllusions wrote: Elaborate yo. Last I saw, PawN does pretty well at laning too. Has Rookie improved that much since moving to CN? rookie's play is kind of based upon his laning strength while pawn is more about roaming and decisionmaking. there's not that much of a difference though, but if anyone has improved in form it is pawn who was looking pretty shaky in lane early on. rookie's soloqueue performance, which is largely laning based, is far better than pawn's. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On April 26 2015 09:29 cLutZ wrote: Really? Its been 2(?) patches. his "rework" was a nerf any way you slice it, basically the same hero and he became a first pick priority for top lane once players figured it out. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 26 2015 09:17 Slusher wrote: Gragas is reaching the Lee Sin Cockroach teir of nerf survival It's interesting, because Gragas went from mid lane -> top lane -> jungle. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On April 26 2015 09:41 Slusher wrote: his "rework" was a nerf any way you slice it, basically the same hero and he became a first pick priority for top lane once players figured it out. And then he got nerfed and didn't see any play for almost a year until he got buffed and new things were added into the game that aided his playstyle. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On April 25 2015 17:02 JazzVortical wrote: I don't know if anyone here still plays him, but Veigar with Luden's seems pretty neat. His Q is low cooldown enough with CDR to get procs easily, and it really helps his burst rotation. Except veigar has good ratios and is burst mage and not a poke one, Dcap will give considerably more damage at every point in the game to his combo. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 26 2015 09:57 sob3k wrote: Except veigar has good ratios and is burst mage and not a poke one, Dcap will give considerably more damage at every point in the game to his combo. Why not both? | ||
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
On April 26 2015 09:17 Slusher wrote: Gragas is reaching the Lee Sin Cockroach teir of nerf survival He might need some small nerfs but he is no where near as dominate as lee sin was for over a year. They could probably lower his base stats and make his e cooldown a few seconds longer but unlike lee Sin if gragas misplays early he dies where as lee sin still kills you or gets away or both | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
Sure, after a mana item, then after Dcap, then after void because that will probably increase your damage more at that point, then after zhonyas because you are veigar and have no mobility and need zhonyas. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
The old Gragas was a good champion that was OP, the new one has that stupid barrel charge mechanic that is basically supposed to be the core mechanic of the kit, but that's a mechanic that needs to be OP to be useful. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On April 26 2015 11:13 Gahlo wrote: The problem with Gragas, currently, is that he double dips on DR with Skirmisher's and his own. Double dip in damage reduction you mean? | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On April 26 2015 11:13 Gahlo wrote: The problem with Gragas, currently, is that he double dips on DR with Skirmisher's and his own. Thats just not true. At least half of Gragas dont even build skirmishers. | ||
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
Now he's fine. He's perfectly balanced. Is he a strong jungler? Sure, but he's not some Übermensch Adonis with no weaknesses. He does his job efficiently, but he's not OP. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On April 26 2015 09:17 Slusher wrote: Gragas is reaching the Lee Sin Cockroach teir of nerf survival Riot need to buff Lee Sin... The biggest bullshit with midlane Gragas was I'm going to press Q+R and oneshot you. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On April 26 2015 14:05 Ansibled wrote: Riot need to buff Lee Sin... The biggest bullshit and midlane Gragas was I'm going to press Q+R and oneshot you. Which was a fixable tuning issue... Whereas new Gragas has to charge barrels, which makes no sense as a mechanic. Its like if Morgana didn't have Q to go with tormented soil, that move would be quite stupid. Now the cinderhulk thing is a problem because they gave him base damages to discourage building AP. | ||
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
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