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MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
April 16 2015 05:15 GMT
#541
Huh, the wiki doesn't say anything about that. Good to know.
Trust in Bayes.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
April 16 2015 05:24 GMT
#542
yeah, haven't seen it documented anywhere, give it a try and see, the q passthrough when you hit a minion first is pitiful
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 16 2015 05:38 GMT
#543
On April 16 2015 13:41 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 13:37 MidnightGladius wrote:
Are you confusing the range with the projectile speed? It's a 950-range projectile with speed 1500, and Xerath's Q range ranges from 750 to 1400.


yeah

but unless im mistaken, the pass through adds some range? either that, or bard's fat model makes it go farther than it should look. im basing this off of seeing some dumb shit happen in a game where my team's xerath would miss a q but somehow i'd hit.


Xerath must not have charged the Q at all, bard's range is really not spectacular, but he trades well with meep auto and Q and frost queen.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 06:02:27
April 16 2015 06:00 GMT
#544
Hmm, maybe the way it works is that the 950 range is a total, but it doesn't take champ or minion width into account?

So like you effectively extend range by the width of the unit you hit, which would explain why the extension if champ hits first is bigger than if you hit a minion. Could probably do a quick test with a teemo vs a six stack Cho.
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MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
April 16 2015 06:21 GMT
#545
I'd test it if I owned the champion. There are still so many runes that I'd like T_T

The more I play as and against top laners with smite, the more I'd like to entertain a teamcomp where everyone runs Smite and starts a camp (the jungler having the privilege of getting 3 camps and level 3 if bot lane shares one). Even if the non-Cinderhulk machete items aren't as good, it'd be hilarious just to get everyone together to 5-smite the first dragon at level 2. You'd be able to do half its total HP with just Smites :D
Trust in Bayes.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
April 16 2015 07:46 GMT
#546
does anyone know how old apdo is?
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
April 16 2015 10:35 GMT
#547
On April 16 2015 16:46 IMoperator wrote:
does anyone know how old apdo is?

Infinite

Also heard the best quote in champ select today. Our last pick has to jungle. He says "our team is so weak, nothing but women and a child" (Akali, Morg, Nami, Trist). He then proceeds to lock in Volibear.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 16 2015 11:54 GMT
#548
Outside of pantheon I don't think you can get more manly than a talking bear
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SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
April 16 2015 12:29 GMT
#549
Why is Keane's stream link here labeled WFXKeane?
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 16 2015 16:44 GMT
#550
Just had a pretty hard case of whiplash. Quickly skimmed over the stream list and read SKTMarin as SKTRainman.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 16 2015 18:06 GMT
#551
I dont like Froggen but i like to watch his stream.

Does that make me a complicated person?
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 16 2015 18:09 GMT
#552
Mensol so tsun tsun for froggen :>
Glorious SEA doto
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 18:12:31
April 16 2015 18:12 GMT
#553
I think its because he always plays the champions i like to watch on challenger level >_<
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Nohiko
Profile Joined January 2015
71 Posts
April 16 2015 19:24 GMT
#554
I was watching Doublelift's stream a short while back and he, aphro, and scarra had a short debate over what they had named a particular area adjacent to midlane. I got me wondering why there are so few 'callouts' for spots on Summoner's Rift like there are for maps in CS and the like. We have the super obvious ones that are just named after the thing that is there (drag pit, baron pit, all the towers, etc), but that pretty much it. Off the top of my head, I can only think of:

death bush
wraith bush (their/our) (top/bot)
tri bush (their/our) (top/bot)
river bush (top/bot)

I would think it would be generally beneficial to have a semi-standardized set of callouts for, at least, the major choke points and bushes. On Double's stream they seemed to agree on 'cat' for the path from blue to mid, and 'ledge' as the path from red to mid (So as blue side, 'our cat' would be the left entrance/exit to midlane on your side, 'our ledge' would be right entrance/exit). Is having a standardized set of callouts asking too much of a community this large? Would too many standards try to compete and everyone end up confused?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 16 2015 19:37 GMT
#555
banana bush, although it really isn't a banana anymore I think most old players know what it was /where it is
Carrilord has arrived.
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
April 16 2015 19:38 GMT
#556
Hmm, for those of us who don't use voice comms, pinging suffices. I certainly wouldn't mind a more succinct standardized list of locations, but it wouldn't change the way I play.
Trust in Bayes.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 19:39:26
April 16 2015 19:38 GMT
#557
WTF is a death bush?

Pings reduce the need to give every little area a name. It's way too difficult to name everything and have it catch on across the entire player base at this point. All the standardized names are there cause there's almost no way to mistake them.
TranslatorBaa!
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 19:45:08
April 16 2015 19:39 GMT
#558
I've thought about coming up with a consistent naming scheme for each of the League bushes, and this is what I came up with:

For "neutral" bushes:

Top river bush
Baron dot bush
Top mid river bush
Bot mid river bush
Dragon dot bush
Bot river bush

For the lanes:

Near [lane] bush
Middle [lane] bush
Far [lane] bush
[side] [lane] side bush

For the blue buff jungles:

[side] Blue bush
[side] middle river bush*
[side] wolves bush
[side] [top/bot] tri bush

For the red buff jungles:

[side] gate bush
[side] Raptor bush
[side] ramp bush*
[side] under-Red bush*
[side] front-Red bush*
[side] Krug bush
[side] [top/bot] tri bush

Am I missing any? The only ones that I think are problematic are starred, but those were the best names I could come up with.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Nohiko
Profile Joined January 2015
71 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 20:12:41
April 16 2015 20:11 GMT
#559
On April 17 2015 04:39 GrandInquisitor wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I've thought about coming up with a consistent naming scheme for each of the League bushes, and this is what I came up with:

For "neutral" bushes:

Top river bush
Baron dot bush
Top mid river bush
Bot mid river bush
Dragon dot bush
Bot river bush

For the lanes:

Near [lane] bush
Middle [lane] bush
Far [lane] bush
[side] [lane] side bush

For the blue buff jungles:

[side] Blue bush
[side] middle river bush*
[side] wolves bush
[side] [top/bot] tri bush

For the red buff jungles:

[side] gate bush
[side] Raptor bush
[side] ramp bush*
[side] under-Red bush*
[side] front-Red bush*
[side] Krug bush
[side] [top/bot] tri bush

Am I missing any? The only ones that I think are problematic are starred, but those were the best names I could come up with.


I think 'middle river bush' has been called 'banana bush' from old-SR, as someone else said.

I've also thought about what to name bushes/places, and found that it was hard to balance how desciptive the name is with how long or cumbersome to say/type it is. I think having a cumbersome name is doable if, along with magically setting a naming standard that everyone has knowledge of, you also have everyone know the shorthand names. For example, time the enemy blue with "705 tb", most people (I think) know that that means 'their blue'.

I'm going off into fantasy land here, but given the premise of "everyone knows the shorthand name of every bush on the map", chat-based communication could develop even further for things like calling out enemy jungle movements or ward locations. I imagine a midlaner who sees particles flying over the enemy wraith wall (e.g. Vi E), typing "jtw" for "enemy jungler at their wraiths". Or top/bot lane typing "wrb" for "ward in river bush". That would allow anyone on the team to see when a ward times out if they called it out when it was placed, or visualize the enemy jungle's jungle path via a couple "enemy jungler" callouts. That kind of communication being generally accepted and used by the community at large is probably fantasy, but it would be cool.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 16 2015 20:33 GMT
#560
[image loading]

I still call it the banana bush to this day even though it is much smaller now. (bush directly over the wall from blue.)
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