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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
April 05 2015 14:42 GMT
#841
On April 05 2015 23:36 Mensol wrote:
[image loading]

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/31ihr8/new_lava_based_champ_scoria/

Apparently a new champion or troll idk.

if that guy is being truthful its a character with 2 movement abilities, 2 knockups and manaless. xD
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 05 2015 15:26 GMT
#842
On April 05 2015 23:01 kongoline wrote:
should i be building cinderhulk on j4 nowadays? i played him first time since nerf and felt so weak compared to enemy zac it wasnt even funny

Yes. Cinderhulk Jarvan should also be maxing W second. E 2nd isn't worth it anymore now that you only get AS from it.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
April 05 2015 16:35 GMT
#843
On April 05 2015 23:42 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 23:36 Mensol wrote:
[image loading]

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/31ihr8/new_lava_based_champ_scoria/

Apparently a new champion or troll idk.

if that guy is being truthful its a character with 2 movement abilities, 2 knockups and manaless. xD

And a revive mechanic :D
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
April 05 2015 16:58 GMT
#844
On April 06 2015 01:35 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 23:42 PrinceXizor wrote:
On April 05 2015 23:36 Mensol wrote:
[image loading]

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/31ihr8/new_lava_based_champ_scoria/

Apparently a new champion or troll idk.

if that guy is being truthful its a character with 2 movement abilities, 2 knockups and manaless. xD

And a revive mechanic :D


Don't worry, the Riot Balance team will get this right. They always figure it out.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-05 17:19:49
April 05 2015 17:17 GMT
#845
Its fake, he fucked up a few things and the text has been edited. At any rate Riot wouldn't release a a new champion with lee sin's Q.

relevant MTG

[image loading]
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-05 18:17:05
April 05 2015 17:38 GMT
#846
Soooo is EUW down? I got kicked out of a game and can't get back in.

edit: nm, seems to be a local issue with ComHem provider, switched DNS to google's and it's working.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
April 05 2015 18:58 GMT
#847
On April 05 2015 17:57 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 12:19 Frolossus wrote:
On April 04 2015 10:38 Goumindong wrote:
On April 04 2015 08:47 Gahlo wrote:
Because winrate is indicative of balance.

Uhh yes, yes it is. It's quite clearly an indicator of champion power.

this is total bullshit.
winrate is skewed by character popularity in a particular elo bracket as well as whether or not it is favored in ranked 5s or solo queue and many other things.

it's honestly not indicative of anything more than what character wins the most for the lower 99% of the playerbase

Absolute win rate is biased by tier. Relative win rate is not. Relative win rate can potentially be biased towards 50% by play rate (Champions with specific requirements on their power get picked less but win more)

So if you're looking at a champion which has high relative win rates at all tiers while being played a lot you've got about as good evidence as is possible that the champion is powerful.

And if you're looking for a strong champion to play/learn the first thing you should look at is "which champions have the highest win rate". And similarly you should be as exacting with the requirements on that too because you should pretty much always be. But that doesn't mean win rate is bullshit or that it doesn't mean anything. It's the fucking best evidence of whether or not a champion is powerful or not. And saying anything else is pretty well dumb.

even within 'relative' winrate or whatever there are a whole bunch of other things that they have to look at when making judgement.
if it is an obscure character with a high winrate, chances are that it's because only players who basically main that character are playing them and thus performing way above average and inflating the winrate.

it honestly doesn't mean much of anything until you look at the factors that contribute to a character's winrate.
AlreadyHere
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada26 Posts
April 05 2015 19:43 GMT
#848
Hello! Me and my brother each made it to diamond this week playing lots of off meta adcs.

To settle a discussion between me and my brother who is the best non adc that can be played as one out of these 3.

Kennen
Twisted Fate
Lulu
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
April 05 2015 19:48 GMT
#849
probably kennen, good with sej in the current patch too :>
Bronze player stuck in platinum
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 05 2015 19:51 GMT
#850
On April 06 2015 04:43 AlreadyHere wrote:
Hello! Me and my brother each made it to diamond this week playing lots of off meta adcs.

To settle a discussion between me and my brother who is the best non adc that can be played as one out of these 3.

Kennen
Twisted Fate
Lulu

Kennen > Lulu > TF
CC and auto attack range is pretty important here. TF has the worst kit for ADC out of the three imo.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 05 2015 20:06 GMT
#851
On April 06 2015 04:51 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 04:43 AlreadyHere wrote:
Hello! Me and my brother each made it to diamond this week playing lots of off meta adcs.

To settle a discussion between me and my brother who is the best non adc that can be played as one out of these 3.

Kennen
Twisted Fate
Lulu

Kennen > Lulu > TF
CC and auto attack range is pretty important here. TF has the worst kit for ADC out of the three imo.


Trinity lulu was the truth until she got utility ratios
Carrilord has arrived.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
April 05 2015 20:40 GMT
#852
On April 06 2015 04:43 AlreadyHere wrote:
Hello! Me and my brother each made it to diamond this week playing lots of off meta adcs.

To settle a discussion between me and my brother who is the best non adc that can be played as one out of these 3.

Kennen
Twisted Fate
Lulu


Did you guys try Malzahar?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 05 2015 21:17 GMT
#853
On April 06 2015 04:43 AlreadyHere wrote:
Hello! Me and my brother each made it to diamond this week playing lots of off meta adcs.

To settle a discussion between me and my brother who is the best non adc that can be played as one out of these 3.

Kennen
Twisted Fate
Lulu

Brand+Leona botlane is straight up broken.
liftlift > tsm
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
April 05 2015 21:49 GMT
#854
On April 06 2015 04:43 AlreadyHere wrote:
Hello! Me and my brother each made it to diamond this week playing lots of off meta adcs.

To settle a discussion between me and my brother who is the best non adc that can be played as one out of these 3.

Kennen
Twisted Fate
Lulu


Kennen by far. Best best stats for ADC (including range) which matters a fair amount in lane. Laning as AD lulu or TF is just weak enough to not be fun imo. Later on TF is basically a worse Ashe, and everything you can do as a AD Lulu you could do better as a traditional AD carry with a lulu beside you.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
April 05 2015 22:33 GMT
#855
Pantheon and a CC bot (like Leona, but I'd be interested to try Nautilus) can be a brutal lane as well.
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
April 05 2015 22:51 GMT
#856
Just played vs Kalista Soraka. Dunno how the fuck to fight this. Normally Soraka lane you would focus Soraka but this just gives Kalista a huge window to stack ridiculous amounts of damage. You start hitting Kalista and we all know what Soraka does at that point. At 6 you cant fight either since its either heal or Kalista ults Soraka.
Stop procrastinating
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 06 2015 01:44 GMT
#857
--- Nuked ---
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 02:06:51
April 06 2015 01:55 GMT
#858
On April 06 2015 10:44 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 07:51 padfoota wrote:
Just played vs Kalista Soraka. Dunno how the fuck to fight this. Normally Soraka lane you would focus Soraka but this just gives Kalista a huge window to stack ridiculous amounts of damage. You start hitting Kalista and we all know what Soraka does at that point. At 6 you cant fight either since its either heal or Kalista ults Soraka.


if your lane doesn't have enough burst you can't win that lane without jungle help.
annoying as shit but that's what soraka's like.

should be much easier outside of lane though since soraka virtually has no peel.


Actually, Rakas E is incredibly good for zoning. If you place it right in front of an enemy champ, they can't get across it before it roots unless they have a dash, blink or are using some sort of movespeed skill. In matchups where the enemy lane + jungler needs to get right on top to kill you, Soraka does stupidly well.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 06 2015 02:20 GMT
#859
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 03:55:09
April 06 2015 03:53 GMT
#860
On April 06 2015 07:51 padfoota wrote:
Just played vs Kalista Soraka. Dunno how the fuck to fight this. Normally Soraka lane you would focus Soraka but this just gives Kalista a huge window to stack ridiculous amounts of damage. You start hitting Kalista and we all know what Soraka does at that point. At 6 you cant fight either since its either heal or Kalista ults Soraka.


Kalista rend doesn't really do way more damage than any other ADC over a given length, if you let any ADC hit you for 5 seconds with all their steroids and shit it does a lot of damage. If Kalista ults soraka then that stops the heals so it doesn't really help much.

Not that its a bad lane, its just like any other soraka lane. You harass whoever you can reach until soraka is a a bit low and then burst her.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
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