[Patch 5.6] More Lasers General Discussion - Page 45
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chalice
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Carnivorous Sheep
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On April 06 2015 21:40 nafta wrote: Yea meta completely changing and getting 200 extra shield(lategame obv) nothing to do with him getting popular.Only because of the hivemind nobody played him. the shield didn't improve him at his niche enough to make him this popular from "joke" champ status. the meta shifts helped a lot though i agree. but the shield change definitely did not bump him from F to A status. he was always around C to bottom of B tier. jumping to low A tier in his best case during S4. but low A tier would be like the 17th or 18th best champion which means he's not going to be picked up because he's not familiar even in the rare situation where drafting him would mean you get a solid champ for the role. It's interesting he's filling up solo lane roles these days, where you kinda shove him because its too difficult to draft a good team in his ideal 3rd position duo lane role. i wonder if we'll see the shift as the season progresses, or if the issues with drafting keep him where he is. | ||
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Ketara
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Is this innacurate? | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Pretty much this... Xerath + Raka bot lane used to be straight stupid, but that was quite awhile ago. On April 07 2015 01:48 PrinceXizor wrote: the shield didn't improve him at his niche enough to make him this popular from "joke" champ status. the meta shifts helped a lot though i agree. but the shield change definitely did not bump him from F to A status. he was always around C to bottom of B tier. jumping to low A tier in his best case during S4. but low A tier would be like the 17th or 18th best champion which means he's not going to be picked up because he's not familiar even in the rare situation where drafting him would mean you get a solid champ for the role. It's interesting he's filling up solo lane roles these days, where you kinda shove him because its too difficult to draft a good team in his ideal 3rd position duo lane role. i wonder if we'll see the shift as the season progresses, or if the issues with drafting keep him where he is. Anyways, Urgot is good mid because he outduels most mids, land an E and you get a big advantage. His lvl 6 also counters most spikes by other champs effectively. The 8% mana scaling on his shield was also stupid good, it's like a free Seraph's on low CD. I suppose from a meta perspective having a tankier mid works better too. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On April 07 2015 01:57 Ketara wrote: I feel like urgot mid first appeared as a zed counter, which I can honestly see the logic behind, and its more western teams taking something that should be a situational pick and just running it whenever because they don't think comps through as much as Asia does. Is this innacurate? Asia has been favoring Cho Gath as their tanky mid. They also have gone with Anivia and Vlad as the mids that "fit" the meta (China still has a hard on for Diana). In Korea only IM has played Urgot mid, they got smoked, I don't recall it in China at all, but also its hard for me to remember what patch they were on before this week. | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
On April 07 2015 02:18 cLutZ wrote: Asia has been favoring Cho Gath as their tanky mid. They also have gone with Anivia and Vlad as the mids that "fit" the meta (China still has a hard on for Diana). In Korea only IM has played Urgot mid, they got smoked, I don't recall it in China at all, but also its hard for me to remember what patch they were on before this week. ? Faker played Urgot mid vs Jin-Air and raped. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
No, you're just wrong. Faker played Vlad and Anivia against Jin Air. | ||
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kongoline
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
Yeah urgot was the adc in that game not mid. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On April 07 2015 01:57 Ketara wrote: I feel like urgot mid first appeared as a zed counter, which I can honestly see the logic behind, and its more western teams taking something that should be a situational pick and just running it whenever because they don't think comps through as much as Asia does. Is this innacurate? He's like 100% pb on this patch in lck not that they wouldn't pick around it well, but his priority appears to exceed counterpick | ||
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Slusher
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AsnSensation
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Slusher
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Frolossus
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
1. Free Week 2. Rent-a-skin How do they not make money in the end off that? | ||
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Caiada
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
Still, he should be one of the first champions that gets a chroma skin pack once they go live on servers, after ironing out the kinks on PBE. | ||
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Mensol
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i already have purple zac skin. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On April 07 2015 06:33 Kinie wrote: Riot's said time and time again that the reason why Zac doesn't have more skins is because he has some weird/unique model issues that make designing new skins or re-colors more difficult than other champions (probably due to trying to render a fluid body as a solid object and the coding involved in that). Still, he should be one of the first champions that gets a chroma skin pack once they go live on servers, after ironing out the kinks on PBE. not exactly.. "*disclaimer - Zac skins are a hot topic and we are not able to answer any questions about -when- a skin is coming out or is in the works (or any other skins). I'm here to perhaps shed a little light and let you guys know Zac is not forgotten!* Definitely don't think you're being rude! What I can tell you is that Zac's champ and stretchy tech is very difficult to work with, and that alone increases work time on him a lot. So using a popular community skin suggestion for him, Gentleman Zac - his clothes especially around his arms would have some crazy weighting and stretching issues. And it would also be really weird to see cloth stretching and turning into globs of goo haha I'd love to hear any suggestions on workarounds you may have to mitigate this! I know "easy" recolored skins have been suggested for Mr. Blob, but then it would seem unfair if say we released a 750 RP Bubblegum Zac and have him wait a while for another skin instead of taking the time to make sure we make a super awesome blow-your-mind quality skin for him." http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/01/red-post-collection-riotscruffy-q-on.html tl;dr they previously said that recolor was something they weren't planning on doing, not that it was not possible. | ||
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