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chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
April 06 2015 16:25 GMT
#881
it probably got nerfed out of existence, but AP Lulu with Lichbane for killing towers instead of an ADC was kind of legit imo.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 16:29:40
April 06 2015 16:29 GMT
#882
Eh, you're still funneling a lot of farm on a champ that's picked primarily for her relative lack of farm dependency.
TranslatorBaa!
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 16:50:00
April 06 2015 16:48 GMT
#883
On April 06 2015 21:40 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 20:34 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On April 06 2015 20:15 M2 wrote:
How come he was not popular last couple of years then? Things that you say should have been relevant even more in the assassin meta, because I would assume that urgot is not the best at killing tanks anyway. Did the recent buff he received made the difference?


They buffed his shield, which was a huge help, but other than that it's just the hivemind always thinking the champ sucks so noone ever plays him until a pro does it once

Yea meta completely changing and getting 200 extra shield(lategame obv) nothing to do with him getting popular.Only because of the hivemind nobody played him.

the shield didn't improve him at his niche enough to make him this popular from "joke" champ status. the meta shifts helped a lot though i agree. but the shield change definitely did not bump him from F to A status. he was always around C to bottom of B tier. jumping to low A tier in his best case during S4. but low A tier would be like the 17th or 18th best champion which means he's not going to be picked up because he's not familiar even in the rare situation where drafting him would mean you get a solid champ for the role.

It's interesting he's filling up solo lane roles these days, where you kinda shove him because its too difficult to draft a good team in his ideal 3rd position duo lane role. i wonder if we'll see the shift as the season progresses, or if the issues with drafting keep him where he is.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 06 2015 16:57 GMT
#884
I feel like urgot mid first appeared as a zed counter, which I can honestly see the logic behind, and its more western teams taking something that should be a situational pick and just running it whenever because they don't think comps through as much as Asia does.

Is this innacurate?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 17:06:39
April 06 2015 17:02 GMT
#885
On April 07 2015 00:52 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 23:24 JonGalt wrote:
On April 06 2015 06:17 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 06 2015 04:43 AlreadyHere wrote:
Hello! Me and my brother each made it to diamond this week playing lots of off meta adcs.

To settle a discussion between me and my brother who is the best non adc that can be played as one out of these 3.

Kennen
Twisted Fate
Lulu

Brand+Leona botlane is straight up broken.


I don't know much about Brand+Leona but this brings up the point of why we don't see more mage + support botlanes with the AD going mid. I feel like Graves, Lucian, Sivir can all go solo in mid no problems and Ez, Corki, Kog (albeit AP) already do go mid. It seems like it might be a good way for some of the mages like Brand to really get to a place where he can start blowing people up.

Because mages need solo lane exp.


Pretty much this...

Xerath + Raka bot lane used to be straight stupid, but that was quite awhile ago.

On April 07 2015 01:48 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 21:40 nafta wrote:
On April 06 2015 20:34 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On April 06 2015 20:15 M2 wrote:
How come he was not popular last couple of years then? Things that you say should have been relevant even more in the assassin meta, because I would assume that urgot is not the best at killing tanks anyway. Did the recent buff he received made the difference?


They buffed his shield, which was a huge help, but other than that it's just the hivemind always thinking the champ sucks so noone ever plays him until a pro does it once

Yea meta completely changing and getting 200 extra shield(lategame obv) nothing to do with him getting popular.Only because of the hivemind nobody played him.

the shield didn't improve him at his niche enough to make him this popular from "joke" champ status. the meta shifts helped a lot though i agree. but the shield change definitely did not bump him from F to A status. he was always around C to bottom of B tier. jumping to low A tier in his best case during S4. but low A tier would be like the 17th or 18th best champion which means he's not going to be picked up because he's not familiar even in the rare situation where drafting him would mean you get a solid champ for the role.

It's interesting he's filling up solo lane roles these days, where you kinda shove him because its too difficult to draft a good team in his ideal 3rd position duo lane role. i wonder if we'll see the shift as the season progresses, or if the issues with drafting keep him where he is.


Anyways, Urgot is good mid because he outduels most mids, land an E and you get a big advantage. His lvl 6 also counters most spikes by other champs effectively. The 8% mana scaling on his shield was also stupid good, it's like a free Seraph's on low CD.

I suppose from a meta perspective having a tankier mid works better too.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 06 2015 17:18 GMT
#886
On April 07 2015 01:57 Ketara wrote:
I feel like urgot mid first appeared as a zed counter, which I can honestly see the logic behind, and its more western teams taking something that should be a situational pick and just running it whenever because they don't think comps through as much as Asia does.

Is this innacurate?


Asia has been favoring Cho Gath as their tanky mid. They also have gone with Anivia and Vlad as the mids that "fit" the meta (China still has a hard on for Diana). In Korea only IM has played Urgot mid, they got smoked, I don't recall it in China at all, but also its hard for me to remember what patch they were on before this week.
Freeeeeeedom
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 17:44:32
April 06 2015 17:42 GMT
#887
On April 07 2015 02:18 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2015 01:57 Ketara wrote:
I feel like urgot mid first appeared as a zed counter, which I can honestly see the logic behind, and its more western teams taking something that should be a situational pick and just running it whenever because they don't think comps through as much as Asia does.

Is this innacurate?


Asia has been favoring Cho Gath as their tanky mid. They also have gone with Anivia and Vlad as the mids that "fit" the meta (China still has a hard on for Diana). In Korea only IM has played Urgot mid, they got smoked, I don't recall it in China at all, but also its hard for me to remember what patch they were on before this week.

? Faker played Urgot mid vs Jin-Air and raped.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 06 2015 18:05 GMT
#888
On April 07 2015 02:42 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2015 02:18 cLutZ wrote:
On April 07 2015 01:57 Ketara wrote:
I feel like urgot mid first appeared as a zed counter, which I can honestly see the logic behind, and its more western teams taking something that should be a situational pick and just running it whenever because they don't think comps through as much as Asia does.

Is this innacurate?


Asia has been favoring Cho Gath as their tanky mid. They also have gone with Anivia and Vlad as the mids that "fit" the meta (China still has a hard on for Diana). In Korea only IM has played Urgot mid, they got smoked, I don't recall it in China at all, but also its hard for me to remember what patch they were on before this week.

? Faker played Urgot mid vs Jin-Air and raped.


No, you're just wrong. Faker played Vlad and Anivia against Jin Air.

Freeeeeeedom
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
April 06 2015 18:05 GMT
#889
thats because urgot is perma banned in lck xd
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
April 06 2015 18:11 GMT
#890
On April 07 2015 02:42 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2015 02:18 cLutZ wrote:
On April 07 2015 01:57 Ketara wrote:
I feel like urgot mid first appeared as a zed counter, which I can honestly see the logic behind, and its more western teams taking something that should be a situational pick and just running it whenever because they don't think comps through as much as Asia does.

Is this innacurate?


Asia has been favoring Cho Gath as their tanky mid. They also have gone with Anivia and Vlad as the mids that "fit" the meta (China still has a hard on for Diana). In Korea only IM has played Urgot mid, they got smoked, I don't recall it in China at all, but also its hard for me to remember what patch they were on before this week.

? Faker played Urgot mid vs Jin-Air and raped.

Yeah urgot was the adc in that game not mid.
Moar banelings less qq
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 06 2015 19:06 GMT
#891
On April 07 2015 01:57 Ketara wrote:
I feel like urgot mid first appeared as a zed counter, which I can honestly see the logic behind, and its more western teams taking something that should be a situational pick and just running it whenever because they don't think comps through as much as Asia does.

Is this innacurate?

He's like 100% pb on this patch in lck not that they wouldn't pick around it well, but his priority appears to exceed counterpick
Carrilord has arrived.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 06 2015 19:10 GMT
#892
Also urgot mid losing twice in lck was simply urgot being picked by a heavy underdog (im)
Carrilord has arrived.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 06 2015 19:46 GMT
#893
Chroma packs are a really cool new idea. Can't wait to spend more money!!!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 06 2015 20:39 GMT
#894
Not sure why zac is so painfully obvious that they included him in the faq but not in the test
Carrilord has arrived.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
April 06 2015 20:47 GMT
#895
chroma packs better mean that i can have brunette kitty kat back. also i'd like to see thigh highs red card again but i doubt they will do that
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 06 2015 21:18 GMT
#896
Speaking of skins, how do they not have 1 of 2 features:
1. Free Week
2. Rent-a-skin

How do they not make money in the end off that?
Freeeeeeedom
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
April 06 2015 21:21 GMT
#897
Lucian/Lee are a lot more popular than Zac. I'm pretty sure once full release happens, Zac is inevitable.
XDG Mata
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
April 06 2015 21:33 GMT
#898
Riot's said time and time again that the reason why Zac doesn't have more skins is because he has some weird/unique model issues that make designing new skins or re-colors more difficult than other champions (probably due to trying to render a fluid body as a solid object and the coding involved in that).

Still, he should be one of the first champions that gets a chroma skin pack once they go live on servers, after ironing out the kinks on PBE.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 06 2015 21:45 GMT
#899
they should return my rp if they release chroma thing.

i already have purple zac skin.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 22:43:03
April 06 2015 22:34 GMT
#900
On April 07 2015 06:33 Kinie wrote:
Riot's said time and time again that the reason why Zac doesn't have more skins is because he has some weird/unique model issues that make designing new skins or re-colors more difficult than other champions (probably due to trying to render a fluid body as a solid object and the coding involved in that).

Still, he should be one of the first champions that gets a chroma skin pack once they go live on servers, after ironing out the kinks on PBE.


not exactly..

"*disclaimer - Zac skins are a hot topic and we are not able to answer any questions about -when- a skin is coming out or is in the works (or any other skins). I'm here to perhaps shed a little light and let you guys know Zac is not forgotten!*

Definitely don't think you're being rude! What I can tell you is that Zac's champ and stretchy tech is very difficult to work with, and that alone increases work time on him a lot. So using a popular community skin suggestion for him, Gentleman Zac - his clothes especially around his arms would have some crazy weighting and stretching issues. And it would also be really weird to see cloth stretching and turning into globs of goo haha I'd love to hear any suggestions on workarounds you may have to mitigate this!

I know "easy" recolored skins have been suggested for Mr. Blob, but then it would seem unfair if say we released a 750 RP Bubblegum Zac and have him wait a while for another skin instead of taking the time to make sure we make a super awesome blow-your-mind quality skin for him."


http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/01/red-post-collection-riotscruffy-q-on.html

tl;dr they previously said that recolor was something they weren't planning on doing, not that it was not possible.
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