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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 04 2015 00:38 GMT
#761
On April 04 2015 09:31 Sonnington wrote:
Omg, how is this Rivington channel not more popular? I love it how sometimes you can't tell the weird stuff Rivington says because he says it so confidently.



"19 to 6 on the kills as they continue to chock up... those... just getting it!"


Because it hasn't been updated in 6 months, and only really was active for 2 months?
Freeeeeeedom
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
April 04 2015 01:12 GMT
#762
On April 04 2015 08:47 Gahlo wrote:
Because winrate is indicative of balance.


not on its own, but if something has a high pickrate and a high winrate that contributes to the conclusion that the champion is "overpowered". I'm not sure of her pickrate, but if she has a relatively high pickrate and her winrate is high, there is a good possibility that she is "overpowered". there's also more information to be looked at like the winrate across leagues or even regions. according to lolking, her pickrate is like 34% (quite high) and her winrate 54% (again quite high) which means she's probably too strong. could also make the same argument for stuff like sejuani. amumu also has a decent pickrate and high winrate, but his popularity lies in the bronze - diamond brackets (at least for NA) and jinx has a high pickrate and winrate anywhere from bronze - masters/challenger)
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
April 04 2015 01:38 GMT
#763
On April 04 2015 08:47 Gahlo wrote:
Because winrate is indicative of balance.

Uhh yes, yes it is. It's quite clearly an indicator of champion power.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 04 2015 02:37 GMT
#764
On April 04 2015 10:38 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 08:47 Gahlo wrote:
Because winrate is indicative of balance.

Uhh yes, yes it is. It's quite clearly an indicator of champion power.

Late S2 Olaf would like a word. S3(?) Leblanc aswell.

Using winrate as a singular point to represent balance is asinine.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
April 04 2015 03:05 GMT
#765
those are called outliers if you are still in grade school, not that there's anything wrong with that.
I come in for the scraps
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-04 03:08:04
April 04 2015 03:06 GMT
#766
Does anyone ever just suddenly feel like you understood something that drastically improved your play? Like just a week ago I was losing lane consistently, then one day I realized how easy it is to win lane, and average like a 4.0kda now, and started skyrocketting in rank. It really just happened overnight.

The weirdest part is that I don't even know what I'm doing better. Skill in league is so arbitrary for me idk
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 04 2015 03:08 GMT
#767
Sure, but if a champion has the highest win rate at their position and is second most popular, that's surely indicative of something. It's not like Galio top that has a really high win rate but has a 0.3% play rate; Jinx is at 30.75%.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
April 04 2015 03:19 GMT
#768
On April 04 2015 10:38 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 08:47 Gahlo wrote:
Because winrate is indicative of balance.

Uhh yes, yes it is. It's quite clearly an indicator of champion power.

this is total bullshit.
winrate is skewed by character popularity in a particular elo bracket as well as whether or not it is favored in ranked 5s or solo queue and many other things.

it's honestly not indicative of anything more than what character wins the most for the lower 99% of the playerbase
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-04 03:30:38
April 04 2015 03:20 GMT
#769
On April 04 2015 12:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
those are called outliers if you are still in grade school, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Those are just the most impactful examples I can think of, it isn't uncommon. But people with a hint of awareness would know that.

Lissandra is such a nice counter to Kat. Easiest lane of my entire life.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 04 2015 03:44 GMT
#770
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 04 2015 04:51 GMT
#771
are opinions ever really incorrect though think about it
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 04 2015 04:55 GMT
#772
I think you guys are looking at winrates the wrong way.

Here's how I look at winrates.

If a champion has a really high winrate (in solo queue), they're probably pretty good (in solo queue).

If a champion has a really low winrate, that doesn't necessarily mean much of anything.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
April 04 2015 05:00 GMT
#773
On April 04 2015 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 12:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
those are called outliers if you are still in grade school, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Those are just the most impactful examples I can think of, it isn't uncommon. But people with a hint of awareness would know that.

Lissandra is such a nice counter to Kat. Easiest lane of my entire life.

Who does good against Lissandra? I play a lot of melee top laners and Lissandra feels pretty oppressive haha.

Also, I see Lissandra top, but does anyone play her mid? Or is that a thing of the past?
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
April 04 2015 05:02 GMT
#774
On April 04 2015 14:00 Frudgey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
On April 04 2015 12:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
those are called outliers if you are still in grade school, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Those are just the most impactful examples I can think of, it isn't uncommon. But people with a hint of awareness would know that.

Lissandra is such a nice counter to Kat. Easiest lane of my entire life.

Who does good against Lissandra? I play a lot of melee top laners and Lissandra feels pretty oppressive haha.

Also, I see Lissandra top, but does anyone play her mid? Or is that a thing of the past?

liss mid is to counter assassins.

i'd counter pick just about anything that can out farm her or out range her
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 04 2015 05:02 GMT
#775
You can play Lissandra mid if you're picking mid second. She has both good matchups and bad matchups.

For example, she does really well against Katarina and Zed, but gets destroyed by Leblanc.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 04 2015 05:03 GMT
#776
did a wave of rank restriction happen or something suddenly draft normal is filled with chat restricted people and those shitters
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 04 2015 05:06 GMT
#777
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-04 05:07:30
April 04 2015 05:06 GMT
#778
Well, to be fair when I did a lot of Liss vs. Leblanc it was when Leblanc still had the silence. It's probably more manageable now.

But yes, it's a hard lane. Probably easier if you're Bjergsen, but none of us are Bjergsen.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
April 04 2015 05:07 GMT
#779
I hope you guys don't mind me asking more match up questions. You guys are a pretty good source of information!

When people play Vladimir, do you guys play him top or mid? Is there a lane that he tends to do better in?

I've been dabbling with playing him mid, and he feels pretty good. Cassiopeia was a tough match up for me as Vladimir, but I don't know if that's because she does well against him or if I just lack experience as Vladimir.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 04 2015 05:12 GMT
#780
On April 04 2015 14:00 Frudgey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
On April 04 2015 12:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
those are called outliers if you are still in grade school, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Those are just the most impactful examples I can think of, it isn't uncommon. But people with a hint of awareness would know that.

Lissandra is such a nice counter to Kat. Easiest lane of my entire life.

Who does good against Lissandra? I play a lot of melee top laners and Lissandra feels pretty oppressive haha.

Also, I see Lissandra top, but does anyone play her mid? Or is that a thing of the past?

I remember one game I had trouble against a Sion. I was able to hold sway over the lane early game, but after he picked up SV/Giant's/Merc I just couldn't keep up manawise to contend with the bulk/regen. Then again, I'm not the best player in the world so it might have been easier that I was performing at.
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