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Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
February 11 2015 20:20 GMT
#61
He just never plays ranked, ever. Although, with that many wins, his MMR must be like, masters/challenger lol
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Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
February 11 2015 20:22 GMT
#62
Its a visual bug. I have seen it on him a few times too
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joohyunee
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Korea (South)1087 Posts
February 11 2015 20:33 GMT
#63
Is it just me or is the meta getting a bit stale across all the regions? I feel like 5.2 took out a lot of the viable champs and replaced them with a few.. I'm getting a bit tired of seeing gnar/kass/corki/leona every game...
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
February 11 2015 20:39 GMT
#64
I think it's linked to the same friend list bug that sometimes claims that people have been in game for thousands of minutes.

Has anyone tried building the Sorcery Elixir on an ADC in a siege comp? I had a Kog'Maw build it in a teambuilder game and it seemed reasonably effective. Kog makes better use of the AP and mana regen than other ADCs, and he also procs the true damage to champions fairly easily with E and R.
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lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
February 11 2015 20:45 GMT
#65
On February 12 2015 05:39 MidnightGladius wrote:
I think it's linked to the same friend list bug that sometimes claims that people have been in game for thousands of minutes.

Has anyone tried building the Sorcery Elixir on an ADC in a siege comp? I had a Kog'Maw build it in a teambuilder game and it seemed reasonably effective. Kog makes better use of the AP and mana regen than other ADCs, and he also procs the true damage to champions fairly easily with E and R.


My guess is that Corki and Ezreal can make use of it too. Maybe even MF since her E and R are AP based?
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 11 2015 21:00 GMT
#66
On February 12 2015 05:33 joohyunee wrote:
Is it just me or is the meta getting a bit stale across all the regions? I feel like 5.2 took out a lot of the viable champs and replaced them with a few.. I'm getting a bit tired of seeing gnar/kass/corki/leona every game...

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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 21:06:46
February 11 2015 21:01 GMT
#67
On February 12 2015 05:39 MidnightGladius wrote:
I think it's linked to the same friend list bug that sometimes claims that people have been in game for thousands of minutes.

Has anyone tried building the Sorcery Elixir on an ADC in a siege comp? I had a Kog'Maw build it in a teambuilder game and it seemed reasonably effective. Kog makes better use of the AP and mana regen than other ADCs, and he also procs the true damage to champions fairly easily with E and R.


What's the reason to waste Wrath or even Ruin for it.
It's not like Kog'Maw struggles with dealing non-physical damage and 40 ap with his scalings is kinda meh.

On February 12 2015 05:45 lilwisper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 05:39 MidnightGladius wrote:
I think it's linked to the same friend list bug that sometimes claims that people have been in game for thousands of minutes.

Has anyone tried building the Sorcery Elixir on an ADC in a siege comp? I had a Kog'Maw build it in a teambuilder game and it seemed reasonably effective. Kog makes better use of the AP and mana regen than other ADCs, and he also procs the true damage to champions fairly easily with E and R.


My guess is that Corki and Ezreal can make use of it too. Maybe even MF since her E and R are AP based?


Just go sorcs on Corki and Miss Fortune, that's it. MF's abilities scale way better with a lot of ad and sorcs give you buff on impure shots which is key to her kit after rework.
Ezreal uses Wrath as well, gives you enough damage to hide some weaknesses in blue build and scales okay with his abilities.

On February 12 2015 05:33 joohyunee wrote:
Is it just me or is the meta getting a bit stale across all the regions? I feel like 5.2 took out a lot of the viable champs and replaced them with a few.. I'm getting a bit tired of seeing gnar/kass/corki/leona every game...


League might struggle with using every champion in game, not like DotA but it feels okay randomly.
I better see properly used comp with 5 same champions over and over again than random pocket picks falling apart one by one.

If Riot increased amount of bans, it could help probably but proplayers argue all the time that they don't have time to practice new champions, so Riot should make less bans or even remove them completely.

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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 21:11:06
February 11 2015 21:06 GMT
#68
On February 12 2015 06:00 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 05:33 joohyunee wrote:
Is it just me or is the meta getting a bit stale across all the regions? I feel like 5.2 took out a lot of the viable champs and replaced them with a few.. I'm getting a bit tired of seeing gnar/kass/corki/leona every game...

ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE


I don't know about all of the regions but OGN(I'm sorry I dun wanna call it LCK) the general jungle picks are Lee, Jarvan, Reksai. If one or more of these are banned you get Elise or Panth. I do however recall a Rengar pick in a game or two. However, the standard picks tend to be Lee, Jarvan and then Reksai.

Not exactly a deep jungle pool, of course professional level jungling hasn't been diverse for some time so it's not really new.

Haven't seen last night(todays?) Im vs CJ games but already know it's junglers and top laners to a lesser degree. Hint: The junglers go with Jarvan,Lee, Reksai.
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 11 2015 21:20 GMT
#69
On February 12 2015 06:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 05:39 MidnightGladius wrote:
I think it's linked to the same friend list bug that sometimes claims that people have been in game for thousands of minutes.

Has anyone tried building the Sorcery Elixir on an ADC in a siege comp? I had a Kog'Maw build it in a teambuilder game and it seemed reasonably effective. Kog makes better use of the AP and mana regen than other ADCs, and he also procs the true damage to champions fairly easily with E and R.


What's the reason to waste Wrath or even Ruin for it.
It's not like Kog'Maw struggles with dealing non-physical damage and 40 ap with his scalings is kinda meh.

Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 05:45 lilwisper wrote:
On February 12 2015 05:39 MidnightGladius wrote:
I think it's linked to the same friend list bug that sometimes claims that people have been in game for thousands of minutes.

Has anyone tried building the Sorcery Elixir on an ADC in a siege comp? I had a Kog'Maw build it in a teambuilder game and it seemed reasonably effective. Kog makes better use of the AP and mana regen than other ADCs, and he also procs the true damage to champions fairly easily with E and R.


My guess is that Corki and Ezreal can make use of it too. Maybe even MF since her E and R are AP based?


Just go sorcs on Corki and Miss Fortune, that's it. MF's abilities scale way better with a lot of ad and sorcs give you buff on impure shots which is key to her kit after rework.
Ezreal uses Wrath as well, gives you enough damage to hide some weaknesses in blue build and scales okay with his abilities.


Math wise, if you're trading one skill/auto Sorcery elixir is probably going to outdamage Wrath elixir on a lot of ADCs.

If you're trading more than one skill/auto, Wrath is probably going to outdamage Sorcery, since the true damage can only proc once every 5 seconds.


If somebody got Sorcery on Corki/Kogmaw in a heavy poke comp for the mana regen, I probably wouldn't rage at them, but I'd find it questionable. Wrath elixir is pretty goddamn cool since it can potentially last the entire game.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
derc
Profile Joined November 2011
France126 Posts
February 11 2015 21:48 GMT
#70
Just played xin. Huge nerf ! :'(
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 11 2015 22:07 GMT
#71
A note: T3 Red Trinket cost got dropped to 250g in 5.3 and wasn't documented. Happy sweeping.
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Great Britain31 Posts
February 11 2015 22:11 GMT
#72
On February 12 2015 04:39 Scip wrote:
can someone explain this to me
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
February 11 2015 22:19 GMT
#73
K-K-K-K-Kennen time!
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 11 2015 22:36 GMT
#74
On February 12 2015 05:33 joohyunee wrote:
Is it just me or is the meta getting a bit stale across all the regions? I feel like 5.2 took out a lot of the viable champs and replaced them with a few.. I'm getting a bit tired of seeing gnar/kass/corki/leona every game...

5.2 is actually pretty solid right now in terms of lane variety, especially cross regional competitive play. The only role that seems to be fairly limited in competitive right now is jungle.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-12 00:15:33
February 12 2015 00:13 GMT
#75
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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
February 12 2015 00:17 GMT
#76
On February 12 2015 07:36 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 05:33 joohyunee wrote:
Is it just me or is the meta getting a bit stale across all the regions? I feel like 5.2 took out a lot of the viable champs and replaced them with a few.. I'm getting a bit tired of seeing gnar/kass/corki/leona every game...

5.2 is actually pretty solid right now in terms of lane variety, especially cross regional competitive play. The only role that seems to be fairly limited in competitive right now is jungle.


In your opinion, is the reason why jungle seems limited in terms of competitive champion pool because of the meta, design changes (read: nerfs) to previous competitive junglers, the loss of Spirit Stone as a jungle item, or the fact that the new jungle is very lethal/damaging in the first few levels?

Personally, I feel it's 50% lethality of jungle in first few minutes, 30% loss of Spirit Stone, 15% design change (ie., nerfs) to previous competitive junglers, and 5% meta.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
February 12 2015 00:17 GMT
#77
wonder how bad sivir's spell shield damage reduction was
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 12 2015 00:19 GMT
#78
Considering the jungle meta was stale even with ss and s4 jungle...

It's probably because the jungle is, and has been, too demanding she demanding a specific subset of champions.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 12 2015 00:24 GMT
#79
On February 12 2015 09:17 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 07:36 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 12 2015 05:33 joohyunee wrote:
Is it just me or is the meta getting a bit stale across all the regions? I feel like 5.2 took out a lot of the viable champs and replaced them with a few.. I'm getting a bit tired of seeing gnar/kass/corki/leona every game...

5.2 is actually pretty solid right now in terms of lane variety, especially cross regional competitive play. The only role that seems to be fairly limited in competitive right now is jungle.


In your opinion, is the reason why jungle seems limited in terms of competitive champion pool because of the meta, design changes (read: nerfs) to previous competitive junglers, the loss of Spirit Stone as a jungle item, or the fact that the new jungle is very lethal/damaging in the first few levels?

Personally, I feel it's 50% lethality of jungle in first few minutes, 30% loss of Spirit Stone, 15% design change (ie., nerfs) to previous competitive junglers, and 5% meta.

The problem with Riot creating a healthy jungle diversity is that, especially this season, to do so they need to go directly agains the grain of their balance paradigm. It's much easier in a game with as many different characters to nerf a few outliers than it is to buff everybody to a similar level and then rebuff again the next time a strong champion comes out.

The issue with the jungle this season is that it went full amusment park and said "You must be this tall to get on the ride." When not enough champions are being picked, instead of giving some of the weaker champions a boost to get them to that bar, they go to the tried and true system of telling Reksai that she isn't allowed to wear heels while going through the line.

It's like poking a hole in the sturdiest boat during a storm to make things fair. It isn't going to help the smaller boats from sinking.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 12 2015 00:36 GMT
#80
I don't think Gahlo's post makes any sense. Maybe I don't understand it.

Could you be more specific please? This is an interesting conversation topic.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
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