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a1 Sovereign
Profile Joined January 2015
Bulgaria67 Posts
January 28 2015 10:35 GMT
#101
Well they want this specifically for defensive items, since you inherently reacting to what damage items are bought, or something.

Personally I don't think it should be a thing for dps items, since it removes some meaningful differences in build paths
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-28 12:33:26
January 28 2015 12:32 GMT
#102
On January 28 2015 09:55 Alaric wrote:
Wait, since when do you even care about Akali?

And having a way to damage tanks is fine (I mean, if you tried playing Viktor in s3-4 it was painfully obvious that no DFG would let you magically play your role by focusing a Nasus/Renekton/Xin), it's just Liandry's is simply so inefficient outside of edge cases that noone builds it anyway, even at lower levels, which makes their statement false.
Then (or rather, before) there's the part where they say "after Liandry's was introduced, people started buying DFG to 100-0 squishies".
Yup. DFG was used against tanks previously and not primarily to blow up squishies better. Riot said it in their patchnotes so it's gotta become true all of a sudden.

Horseshit.


wtf are you talking about
if you want to kill tanks you wanted void staff more than dfg, nobody used dfg burst to kill tanks unless you caught someone or something

in particular tanks tend to have around 100 mr just from runes scaling and mercs or hexdrinker, often squishies are closer to 30-40 mr and are close to true damage from dfg
aka Teutonica
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
January 28 2015 12:43 GMT
#103
I think I ll have to put Life Steal runes on my jungle Rengar to be able to clear at least 4 camps before going back
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 28 2015 12:46 GMT
#104
That's exactly what I said, Teut: DFG was never a tankbuster item, but Riot tries to pretend it was before the introduction of Liandry's and that the latter is what made people buy it as an "additional nuke" item.

It's always been like that regardless of Liandry's, they just seem to think we're too dumb to notice. Or they haven't noticed themselves and I'm not sure which is worse.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
January 28 2015 12:48 GMT
#105
On January 28 2015 21:43 M2 wrote:
I think I ll have to put Life Steal runes on my jungle Rengar to be able to clear at least 4 camps before going back

I anticipate the death of Rengar in solo-queue with a grin on my face.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
January 28 2015 12:50 GMT
#106
On January 28 2015 21:46 Alaric wrote:
That's exactly what I said, Teut: DFG was never a tankbuster item, but Riot tries to pretend it was before the introduction of Liandry's and that the latter is what made people buy it as an "additional nuke" item.

It's always been like that regardless of Liandry's, they just seem to think we're too dumb to notice. Or they haven't noticed themselves and I'm not sure which is worse.


they wanted it to be a tankbusting item but they realized that was retarded so they removed it
aka Teutonica
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 28 2015 12:56 GMT
#107
Can't you just do golems/red/wraiths with 1 pot and go back to buy rangers?You get enough gold to upgrade.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-28 13:02:54
January 28 2015 13:02 GMT
#108
twitch.tv died ?
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
January 28 2015 13:06 GMT
#109
On January 28 2015 16:43 killerdog wrote:
Also Prog, I told you syndra stun felt broken!


I immediately thought of your Syndra game when I read the patchnote. : D
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
January 28 2015 13:20 GMT
#110
On January 28 2015 21:48 Cedstick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 21:43 M2 wrote:
I think I ll have to put Life Steal runes on my jungle Rengar to be able to clear at least 4 camps before going back

I anticipate the death of Rengar in solo-queue with a grin on my face.

Bitch xD haha
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-28 14:03:25
January 28 2015 13:55 GMT
#111
tristanas voice set sucks now, too


on the plus side, you can create a machinegun sound troughout the whole laning phase by cancelling autos.
But i preferred rocket in your pocket.
JJMC
Profile Joined January 2015
Portugal83 Posts
January 28 2015 14:25 GMT
#112
I don't understand why no Azir nerfs yet however.
Phenomenal
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
January 28 2015 14:58 GMT
#113
On January 28 2015 23:25 JJMC wrote:
I don't understand why no Azir nerfs yet however.

They already put out a post that they are looking into azir nerfs but wouldn't be in this patch. I Expect a range nerf on his dash and soldiers attack.
Moar banelings less qq
JJMC
Profile Joined January 2015
Portugal83 Posts
January 28 2015 15:35 GMT
#114
I don't know, until that patch comes out it's still a must ban. Also, what's the opinion on Nidalee? She's still annoying as f, and her spears still chunk hard, I don't really like her being buffed, I don't want to see the annoyance of Nidalee jungle back.
Phenomenal
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
January 28 2015 15:38 GMT
#115
dodge the spears ggwp
aka Teutonica
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
January 28 2015 15:45 GMT
#116
On January 29 2015 00:38 Slayer91 wrote:
dodge the spears ggwp

So that's what I've been doing wrong all this time!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
January 28 2015 15:46 GMT
#117
Riot's done a good job of making sure their new champions are played a lot in competitive. Start them out strong, slowly nerf until the newest flavors come around. Rinse and repeat.
Hey! How you doin'?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 28 2015 15:56 GMT
#118
On January 28 2015 21:50 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 21:46 Alaric wrote:
That's exactly what I said, Teut: DFG was never a tankbuster item, but Riot tries to pretend it was before the introduction of Liandry's and that the latter is what made people buy it as an "additional nuke" item.

It's always been like that regardless of Liandry's, they just seem to think we're too dumb to notice. Or they haven't noticed themselves and I'm not sure which is worse.


they wanted it to be a tankbusting item but they realized that was retarded so they removed it

You mean they remade it like 4 times with multiple different designers that had different levels of misconceptions about how the item was used before finally removing it when they realized none of those guys had any idea what they were doing.
Moderator
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-28 16:09:05
January 28 2015 15:58 GMT
#119
does anyone else feel that in s4 they kept nerfing tank items and now that dmg seems nuts because of poor tank itemization they need to tone down all the dmg items/burst champions (dragon buff made it even more apparent)
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-28 16:24:17
January 28 2015 16:22 GMT
#120
no

they did nerf magic resist items quite a bit and IE+Shiv needed a nerf because the crit chain lightning poke was too dumb
aka Teutonica
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