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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 28 2015 16:23 GMT
#121
Faker Katarina vs Westdoor on tf on fakers stream.
JJMC
Profile Joined January 2015
Portugal83 Posts
January 28 2015 17:11 GMT
#122
On January 29 2015 00:38 Slayer91 wrote:
dodge the spears ggwp


I don't think that's the only thing, I'd be fine if all her power depended on the spear only, but the rest of the kit isn't quite shitty enough to make that the case.
Phenomenal
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
January 28 2015 17:20 GMT
#123


#neverforget ;-;
TranslatorBaa!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35144 Posts
January 28 2015 17:37 GMT
#124
DING DONG DFG IS DEAD
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 28 2015 17:46 GMT
#125
On January 29 2015 02:11 JJMC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 00:38 Slayer91 wrote:
dodge the spears ggwp


I don't think that's the only thing, I'd be fine if all her power depended on the spear only, but the rest of the kit isn't quite shitty enough to make that the case.


it is if you dodge the spears
her kit sucks if you dont get the hunted debuff
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
January 28 2015 17:53 GMT
#126
Honestly there's not nearly as many good MR items as there are Armor ones. In a general sense, there's 4 main armors that people get: Randuins, Sunfire Cape, Thornmail, and Frozen Heart. When compared to the MR items, all you have are Banshee's Veil (which was nerfed in s4), Spirit Visage (also nerfed), Aegis/Locket (also nerfed), Abyssal Scepter (only good on AP champs that like to get up in someone's face), and QSS/Mercurial (only good on ADCs or for the QSS active). There's also GA, but that's just flat resistances, along with a pretty expensive recipe cost.

I wish they'd add in another MR item that builds off Negatron Cloak and gave something like: +80 MR, +300 HP, Unique: reduce the damage from an AP attack by 5%.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
January 28 2015 17:59 GMT
#127
Eighty MR? Nothing should have eighty MR on it, that's ludicrous.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
January 28 2015 18:04 GMT
#128
On January 29 2015 02:59 Cedstick wrote:
Eighty MR? Nothing should have eighty MR on it, that's ludicrous.


Maybe, but it needs to be a high cost item, not something you can grab easily. My thinking was Negatron Cloak + Giant's Belt > 1150 gold (3000 gold total).
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 28 2015 18:04 GMT
#129
randuins 500 hp 70 armour doe good item bros

ive been building 2-3 randuins lategame since they buffed it
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-28 18:10:42
January 28 2015 18:08 GMT
#130
it got nerfed in s4 like pretty much every tank item in the game, they buffed it slightly recently (still worse than before) when people started crying adc dominate games and rip apart everything
JJMC
Profile Joined January 2015
Portugal83 Posts
January 28 2015 18:08 GMT
#131
On January 29 2015 02:46 Slayer91 wrote:
it is if you dodge the spears
her kit sucks if you dont get the hunted debuff


Doesn't suck hard enough. She still has sustain and high mobility, and if you're a Melee character, she can still trade just fine.
Phenomenal
Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
January 28 2015 18:10 GMT
#132
Ugh, the old MR itemization sucks argument. If you want another negatron cloak item, build Zz'rot. MR items do the job of being super cost efficient counters to AP damage dealers.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-28 18:14:14
January 28 2015 18:13 GMT
#133
zzrot is terrible so is ga
its cost efficiency is just shit
its better not to build MR and focus on dodging mage skillshots, it's generally something that people don't concentrate on enough and its a game winner

you get like 100 mr or something anyway a big mr item is up to only 150 or something, and if they get void its barely that much better

its okay if they have 2 ap solos and an ap jungle or ap support but otherwise 100 is usually more than enough
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
January 28 2015 18:15 GMT
#134
It's hard to put a value on a second life when that value can be either 0 or game winning depending on the situation. Valuing GA on a purely cost efficiency basis is pretty pointless.
TranslatorBaa!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 28 2015 18:18 GMT
#135
On January 29 2015 02:53 Kinie wrote:
Honestly there's not nearly as many good MR items as there are Armor ones. In a general sense, there's 4 main armors that people get: Randuins, Sunfire Cape, Thornmail, and Frozen Heart. When compared to the MR items, all you have are Banshee's Veil (which was nerfed in s4), Spirit Visage (also nerfed), Aegis/Locket (also nerfed), Abyssal Scepter (only good on AP champs that like to get up in someone's face), and QSS/Mercurial (only good on ADCs or for the QSS active). There's also GA, but that's just flat resistances, along with a pretty expensive recipe cost.

I wish they'd add in another MR item that builds off Negatron Cloak and gave something like: +80 MR, +300 HP, Unique: reduce the damage from an AP attack by 5%.

Nah, just reintroduce FoN. Fixes all problems
liftlift > tsm
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 28 2015 18:18 GMT
#136
it depends if you're udyr or something you basically can't do anything with a GA but if you're like riven you can revive shield for 1k do 2k dmg lifesteal to full and penta kill

on most tanks it's extremely weak since your cds are down by the time you revive anyway
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
January 28 2015 19:03 GMT
#137
i'd like an item that gives ap + mr but gives more ap than abyssal w/o flat pen
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
January 28 2015 19:04 GMT
#138
On January 29 2015 04:03 Frolossus wrote:
i'd like an item that gives ap + mr but gives more ap than abyssal w/o flat pen


Seems silly since such an item would be either strictly worse or strictly better than Abyssal depending on the numbers...
TranslatorBaa!
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
January 28 2015 19:13 GMT
#139
http://www.esportsheaven.com/news/view/64686

Damn, this Roar team is making a loud move after another.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
January 28 2015 19:17 GMT
#140
On January 29 2015 04:04 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 04:03 Frolossus wrote:
i'd like an item that gives ap + mr but gives more ap than abyssal w/o flat pen


Seems silly since such an item would be either strictly worse or strictly better than Abyssal depending on the numbers...

as it is now i don't see a reason to build abyssal on most characters over banshee or GA, offering more AP after DFG is/was removed means that it'd be a decent pickup
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