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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-05 21:44:25
February 05 2015 21:44 GMT
#841
Stop.

Off-topic dicsussion should go in the Off-topic Discussion Thread.
TranslatorBaa!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 05 2015 22:24 GMT
#842
Please don't bring it there either.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
February 06 2015 01:18 GMT
#843
so have they hotfixed ahri yet

having a fulltime job is op
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
February 06 2015 02:24 GMT
#844
On February 06 2015 10:18 101toss wrote:
so have they hotfixed ahri yet

having a fulltime job is op

just play annie or something and crush her
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
February 06 2015 05:07 GMT
#845
On February 06 2015 06:44 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Stop.

Show nested quote +
Off-topic dicsussion should go in the Off-topic Discussion Thread.


You're not my real Dad anyway

User was warned for this post
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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
February 06 2015 08:47 GMT
#846
Kind of random, but where did all of the Korean LoL streams go on the featured/non-featured streams list?
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 06 2015 09:00 GMT
#847
I don't understand the point of this thread anymore. I get that LL doesn't want random clutter about forum writing etiquette. What I don't understand is what's classified as "patch topics." I've lurked in this thread a long time while occasionally posting and the creation of LL seemed to do little more than make my browsing experience worse and more difficult.

For example I'd like to discuss the tankier version of Fizz that players have been experimenting in both the top and mid lane. Since he was changed this patch does that apply to this thread? As it stands now I'd need to read the entirety of this thread to look for discussion about this play style and check a Fizz thread.

If Fizz talk is for the Fizz thread why does this one even exist?
Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread. While posting standards tend to be rather lax in this thread, pointless spam will not be tolerated.


I get that part. It seems as though everything is being redirected to a different thread and honestly it's becoming more work to laugh and learn from this community than to check Reddit for the one useful post a day that pops up.

I guess at the end of the day I want to know why this thread remains if mods and admins want so many topics moved elsewhere. Maybe champ threads are the obsolete issue since there are currently few being updated. I don't know the solution but I miss some casual banter about topics being thrown in here without warnings that they have their own thread.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
February 06 2015 10:32 GMT
#848
On February 06 2015 18:00 JonnyLaw wrote:
I don't understand the point of this thread anymore. I get that LL doesn't want random clutter about forum writing etiquette. What I don't understand is what's classified as "patch topics." I've lurked in this thread a long time while occasionally posting and the creation of LL seemed to do little more than make my browsing experience worse and more difficult.

For example I'd like to discuss the tankier version of Fizz that players have been experimenting in both the top and mid lane. Since he was changed this patch does that apply to this thread? As it stands now I'd need to read the entirety of this thread to look for discussion about this play style and check a Fizz thread.

If Fizz talk is for the Fizz thread why does this one even exist?
Show nested quote +
Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread. While posting standards tend to be rather lax in this thread, pointless spam will not be tolerated.


I get that part. It seems as though everything is being redirected to a different thread and honestly it's becoming more work to laugh and learn from this community than to check Reddit for the one useful post a day that pops up.

I guess at the end of the day I want to know why this thread remains if mods and admins want so many topics moved elsewhere. Maybe champ threads are the obsolete issue since there are currently few being updated. I don't know the solution but I miss some casual banter about topics being thrown in here without warnings that they have their own thread.


We explained it in here. An updated version of GD will be out soon.
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ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-07 03:49:45
February 07 2015 03:46 GMT
#849
I asked in the LPL thread, but asking here as well. Anyone know why Kalista + Leona is more popular currently than Kalista + Annie? Is it mostly because Leona can withstand a throw in due to her item/rune/mastery builds more than Annie?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-07 03:55:32
February 07 2015 03:55 GMT
#850
On February 07 2015 12:46 ketchup wrote:
I asked in the LPL thread, but asking here as well. Anyone know why Kalista + Leona is more popular currently than Kalista + Annie? Is it mostly because Leona can withstand a throw in due to her item/rune/mastery builds more than Annie?

That and Kalista popup gives a perfect opening to a dead center Solar Flare. Also lets her get in without having to hit her E.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-07 04:21:00
February 07 2015 04:20 GMT
#851
On February 07 2015 12:55 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 12:46 ketchup wrote:
I asked in the LPL thread, but asking here as well. Anyone know why Kalista + Leona is more popular currently than Kalista + Annie? Is it mostly because Leona can withstand a throw in due to her item/rune/mastery builds more than Annie?

That and Kalista popup gives a perfect opening to a dead center Solar Flare. Also lets her get in without having to hit her E.


Doesn't the Kalista + Annie combo have similar pros/cons too though? As in, one good Kalista combo will demolish teams with Annie as well. Kalista's skillset also gives Annie more freedom to try to make plays with her flash. I'm just really curious as to why this pattern developed. Annie dropped off so suddenly in pro games in exchange for Leona. Also doesn't annie do really well with all the lane swapping going on?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-07 05:14:53
February 07 2015 05:13 GMT
#852
On February 07 2015 13:20 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 12:55 Gahlo wrote:
On February 07 2015 12:46 ketchup wrote:
I asked in the LPL thread, but asking here as well. Anyone know why Kalista + Leona is more popular currently than Kalista + Annie? Is it mostly because Leona can withstand a throw in due to her item/rune/mastery builds more than Annie?

That and Kalista popup gives a perfect opening to a dead center Solar Flare. Also lets her get in without having to hit her E.


Doesn't the Kalista + Annie combo have similar pros/cons too though? As in, one good Kalista combo will demolish teams with Annie as well. Kalista's skillset also gives Annie more freedom to try to make plays with her flash. I'm just really curious as to why this pattern developed. Annie dropped off so suddenly in pro games in exchange for Leona. Also doesn't annie do really well with all the lane swapping going on?

It does, but Annie is a tiny waif of a girl. Leona can take a beating. If she can get proper sight lines, she could mess up the back row and then Zenith Blade back to the her carries.
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
February 07 2015 13:04 GMT
#853
Leona's passive with oathsworn makes for a scary 2v2. But for a lane swap or if you have strong engage on jungle or top Annie can bring some serious damage with tibbers/w combo on the backline.
Moar banelings less qq
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
February 07 2015 15:06 GMT
#854
On February 06 2015 02:36 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 14:56 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 05 2015 14:30 TheHumanSensation wrote:
If I get ahead as Shen and need to carry, what's a good offensive item (better than sunfire / thornmail)?


#longliveionianspark
#longliveatmasimpaler
Botrk is actually decent enough, if you want something between stacking 4th hundred armor or 3rd hundred magic resist.

On February 05 2015 14:47 lilwisper wrote:
On February 05 2015 14:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 05 2015 14:35 lilwisper wrote:
On February 05 2015 14:30 TheHumanSensation wrote:
If I get ahead as Shen and need to carry, what's a good offensive item (better than sunfire / thornmail)?


I have seen folks build triforce for Shen mostly.

triforce is such a nice single item for shen, but I feel if you get it, it's such an expensive item that you'd have to be like 3-4 kills ahead in lane for you to buy it without falling behind in your defensive scaling, and your overall utility. Which is hugely problematic since shen usually just aims to go even in lane anyways, rarely does he ever get a lane where he smashes. The time you do get ahead, is usually your midgame ulti contributions, and by then you already have boots + 2 defensive items, and building 3rd item triforce takes forever, and is a huge pain in the ass.


It is expensive, but doesn't the build path allow decent flexibility? It's not like building a IE or Deathcap where you have to wait for a huge sum before you even finish part of the build. Then again with most of the defensive items getting paths from their little cousins (especially now that ruby leads to belt) wouldn't it be best to keep on the defensive stacking?


Components are kinda useless on Shen, noone will in good mind start him with sheen, for example, because when you compare someone like Malphite with casual sheen and Shen, Shen loses a lot there.

Phage sounds cool on paper but you won't buy casual phage in beginning of game either, ultying somewhere just to die sounds bad.
Zeal is even worse.

Frozen mallet might be good on Shen, but it's so freaking expensive for so little profit that it sucks as well.


Trinity force is the best and probably only good damage item on him post wits nerf (wits or botrk work if you really need them are okay for a 2nd item)
You don't compare items to how good they are on other champions that's absurd.
You don't say "oh don't get sunfire on anyone because it's better on garen"



A Shen with sheen probably destroys a malph with sheen because his kit with the sheen damage outlasts malphite.
Malphite runs oom very quickly and his passive regens much slower than shens Q. Shens W and Q can stop him getting low from E//Q harass before he runs out of mana.

Shen usually has lots of health because of his W and Q healing and good harass so he lacks burst damage, the sheen provides that nicely.


Zeal and phage aren't to be underestimated, movement speed is very good on shen because he relies on mobility to hit his ki strikes and taunts and thats all he does post ult.
You normally want sunfire first of course and full tank is a more normal route but absolutely all my dominating shen games have involved wrecking with trinity



wits end has always been a bit underwhelming. Botrk wouldn't be muchbetter, the ki strike as scaling sounds good on paper but realistically melees cant stick to squishies for a long time so the speed and burst of trinity is far better

I've started sheen on shen anytime I'm doing really well, its the best item to punish people in lane
sunfire is obviously the usual item to get


10/10, you don't destroy anyone just because you move faster. Anyone seriously thinking to themselves that sheen is bad for extending a lead (or holding one) should get smacked over 9000 times by my magical chords.
hi
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
February 07 2015 16:37 GMT
#855
sonas base ad sucks a lot though for buying sheen
20 stack mejais lichbane is op though
aka Teutonica
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
February 07 2015 16:45 GMT
#856
On February 08 2015 00:06 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 02:36 Slayer91 wrote:
On February 05 2015 14:56 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 05 2015 14:30 TheHumanSensation wrote:
If I get ahead as Shen and need to carry, what's a good offensive item (better than sunfire / thornmail)?


#longliveionianspark
#longliveatmasimpaler
Botrk is actually decent enough, if you want something between stacking 4th hundred armor or 3rd hundred magic resist.

On February 05 2015 14:47 lilwisper wrote:
On February 05 2015 14:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 05 2015 14:35 lilwisper wrote:
On February 05 2015 14:30 TheHumanSensation wrote:
If I get ahead as Shen and need to carry, what's a good offensive item (better than sunfire / thornmail)?


I have seen folks build triforce for Shen mostly.

triforce is such a nice single item for shen, but I feel if you get it, it's such an expensive item that you'd have to be like 3-4 kills ahead in lane for you to buy it without falling behind in your defensive scaling, and your overall utility. Which is hugely problematic since shen usually just aims to go even in lane anyways, rarely does he ever get a lane where he smashes. The time you do get ahead, is usually your midgame ulti contributions, and by then you already have boots + 2 defensive items, and building 3rd item triforce takes forever, and is a huge pain in the ass.


It is expensive, but doesn't the build path allow decent flexibility? It's not like building a IE or Deathcap where you have to wait for a huge sum before you even finish part of the build. Then again with most of the defensive items getting paths from their little cousins (especially now that ruby leads to belt) wouldn't it be best to keep on the defensive stacking?


Components are kinda useless on Shen, noone will in good mind start him with sheen, for example, because when you compare someone like Malphite with casual sheen and Shen, Shen loses a lot there.

Phage sounds cool on paper but you won't buy casual phage in beginning of game either, ultying somewhere just to die sounds bad.
Zeal is even worse.

Frozen mallet might be good on Shen, but it's so freaking expensive for so little profit that it sucks as well.


Trinity force is the best and probably only good damage item on him post wits nerf (wits or botrk work if you really need them are okay for a 2nd item)
You don't compare items to how good they are on other champions that's absurd.
You don't say "oh don't get sunfire on anyone because it's better on garen"



A Shen with sheen probably destroys a malph with sheen because his kit with the sheen damage outlasts malphite.
Malphite runs oom very quickly and his passive regens much slower than shens Q. Shens W and Q can stop him getting low from E//Q harass before he runs out of mana.

Shen usually has lots of health because of his W and Q healing and good harass so he lacks burst damage, the sheen provides that nicely.


Zeal and phage aren't to be underestimated, movement speed is very good on shen because he relies on mobility to hit his ki strikes and taunts and thats all he does post ult.
You normally want sunfire first of course and full tank is a more normal route but absolutely all my dominating shen games have involved wrecking with trinity



wits end has always been a bit underwhelming. Botrk wouldn't be muchbetter, the ki strike as scaling sounds good on paper but realistically melees cant stick to squishies for a long time so the speed and burst of trinity is far better

I've started sheen on shen anytime I'm doing really well, its the best item to punish people in lane
sunfire is obviously the usual item to get


10/10, you don't destroy anyone just because you move faster. Anyone seriously thinking to themselves that sheen is bad for extending a lead (or holding one) should get smacked over 9000 times by my magical chords.

Would have to agree that trinity is the best offensive item on shen. It makes the most out of what energy he has and turns it into burst, and it helps him get energy back faster with a combination of movement speed and attack speed.

Shen's cooldowns are low enough to make use of sheen/trinity, the hard part is the energy gate, which the other stats on trinity help mitigate.
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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
February 07 2015 16:55 GMT
#857
On February 08 2015 01:37 Slayer91 wrote:
sonas base ad sucks a lot though for buying sheen
20 stack mejais lichbane is op though


I always intend to get tri-force before my ADC so I've never tried ap. But then again, you kill anyone without ap anyways, as long as you're ahead. Hue
hi
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
February 07 2015 17:01 GMT
#858
LOL
thats a dumb way to play even by my standards
aka Teutonica
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
February 07 2015 17:19 GMT
#859
Went Mejais Sona 2 days ago, got 20 stacks. Then we got aced twice
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-07 17:22:42
February 07 2015 17:22 GMT
#860
baddie
you get like free shurelyas every 6 seconds with that much ap and you died?
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