EPT[Patch 5.2] RIP DFG General Discussion - Page 11
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 29 2015 12:52 Sonnington wrote: How do you make Zz'rot work? When do you build it? Do you just build the defensive component you need and put a warmogs on top then finish it after warmogs? I can't see any other appropriate way to build that item. Statistically it's pretty similar to GA. Like banner of command, it's pretty much a "walk into lane, use active, go back to team and let it split push for you." | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
lol. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On January 29 2015 13:13 GolemMadness wrote: Zz'rot seems like something that only makes sense when you're already ahead and maybe it helps you win faster. Or maybe as like a 5th item on Mundo since the voidspawns get 100% of your armour/MR. I think it's only every 4th voidspawn now that gets the bonus from your armor/mr. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On January 29 2015 13:17 obesechicken13 wrote: I think it's only every 4th voidspawn now that gets the bonus from your armor/mr. Yeah, that's true. I wonder about the AoE mitigation. According to the wiki, it has some, but the amount seems unknown. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
On January 29 2015 13:20 Slusher wrote: seems like it would be a good item on tank tops who suck at taking towers like Maokai mabye, grab it as a follow up to RoA mabye? idk imagine if it had stats that were good for vlad, ultimate in lane pressure who now takes towers fast? I guess in that sense it's workable on singed Yeah, it really seems like an item to build on top of a bunch of raw HP or it's kinda bad. Considering how cheap warmogs is, it doesn't seem like a bad idea to rush warmogs/defensive item into Zz'rott. In fact, with a component defensive item plus warmogs it probably offers more defense than other completed items in the 3200 price range range. | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On January 29 2015 12:50 wei2coolman wrote: Cowsep's mastery of Yi is pretty insane. It plays like a Zed, that you use the Q to dodge stuff, except it's on like a 1 second cooldown when you get the resets. Also, you can use the W to attack reset, it's pretty silly some of the stuff he does with that champion. A lot of the knowledge is adapting to your opponents cooldowns and stuff. Yi is so obnoxious with Riot's hate boner for targetted cc. Feels like Liss is the only meta champ right now with targetted cc. Yi is one of those champions that I hate cause when he's picked late in the draft and you realize your team has little to no targetted cc, he becomes a nightmare to play against. It's not overpowered, but it's very annoying. Conversely, if you have a good targetted cc he just dies instantly. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 29 2015 13:38 MattBarry wrote: Yi is so obnoxious with Riot's hate boner for targetted cc. Feels like Liss is the only meta champ right now with targetted cc. Yi is one of those champions that I hate cause when he's picked late in the draft and you realize your team has little to no targetted cc, he becomes a nightmare to play against. It's not overpowered, but it's very annoying. Conversely, if you have a good targetted cc he just dies instantly. It also doesn't help that he's often immune to one of the cc types that hurt him the hardest. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Okazaki
Canada29 Posts
On January 29 2015 13:38 MattBarry wrote: Yi is so obnoxious with Riot's hate boner for targetted cc. Feels like Liss is the only meta champ right now with targetted cc. Yi is one of those champions that I hate cause when he's picked late in the draft and you realize your team has little to no targetted cc, he becomes a nightmare to play against. It's not overpowered, but it's very annoying. Conversely, if you have a good targetted cc he just dies instantly. The solution to late pick yi is for your jungler to out pressure him and win all the lanes. | ||
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Nohiko
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However, if you place the portal behind the tower (golems brush if your enemy is red side or drop it over the wall river->tri if your enemy is blue side) you actually get more tower dps. The voidlings can hold up the enemy minion wave solo and even though they can't kill the waves, they allow your minions to focus down the tower. This, in my experience, will kill a tower faster then just placing the portal in front of the tower. An added bonus of the golems-brush is that the portal can attack both top towers from that position. This is of course assuming that you are just leaving your portal and making plays elsewhere. You can also use it to augment a siege (provided you have waveclear, see the minion priority problem) and get some decent tower dps out of it. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Maybe she was OP before, I dont know, but she feels awful to play right now. Everything just barely out of range. Lol. On January 29 2015 14:50 Okazaki wrote: The solution to late pick yi is for your jungler to out pressure him and win all the lanes. Yi doesn't even really have poor jungle pressure if he is picked into the right composition. When any of his laners have CC he can be quite scary. Runs really fast, hits harder than most jungles, and can dive you easily with his ability to drop tower aggro with Q. He also is a jungle that is pretty healthy, which in itself nowadays puts out some pressure because you know you CAN be ganked at any time, even if you saw him through a ward with 10% HP. He also is much better than many junglers in 2v2 skirmish sort of situations. Thats not to say Yi is OP, usually if he gets through late in the draft and you have no real stuns you kind of drafted poorly anyway and a number of champions could rickroll your team similarly (Fiora, Kass, Kat, Akali, KhaZix, Riven, Shaco, Yasuo... etc) but its not as simple as "oh, just gank harder than him" all the time. | ||
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niukasu1990
1007 Posts
this one is formed by PLU, which organized LPL. http://star.longzhu.tv/faker Don't know if Faker will joined a Chinese team or just stream from Korea. It is more attractive for Chinese viewers to play in Chinese server | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 29 2015 15:37 niukasu1990 wrote: It seems that Faker will finally stream in Chinese streaming site. this one is formed by PLU, which organized LPL. http://star.longzhu.tv/faker Don't know if Faker will joined a Chinese team or just stream from Korea. It is more attractive for Chinese viewers to play in Chinese server Thought kespa had a deal with azubu? | ||
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niukasu1990
1007 Posts
I thought that deal is about to end or negotiation between plu and azubu are done. According to the source, not only streaming, but also a competition like Asian Championship or Battle of Pacific will be held at least include CN and KR teams. It is also possible to include western teams. | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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Kinie
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