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Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
January 29 2015 08:19 GMT
#221
On January 29 2015 17:09 Kinie wrote:
So I wasn't 100% sure on the changes to Ahri now that she lost DFG, but the Q movement speed thing is rediculous. So long as you are smart with how you poke and when to engage, you should never get caught unless it's some sort of insane engage (I'm talking Flash Tibbers or Lissa E + Flash + Ult levels of engage).


Yeah, all games I played today had an ahri. So silly when she has ult and the movement speed buff. It seems to be much easier to land the true damage, that plus her ult and w prioritizing better don't notice the loss of DFG.

Not sure if its good but, all the Ahris also built lichbane as 2nd/3rd item. Seems to be easier or safer to auto with the movement buff as well.
Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
January 29 2015 08:51 GMT
#222
On January 29 2015 15:11 Nohiko wrote:
I've been building Zz'Rot on top-lane sion a fair amount in soloq, I've found it fairly useful most of the time. One problem/quirk with the portal is that if you just drop it near the enemy tower (but still in front of the tower), a lot of the Voidlings' dps will be wasted on the enemy minion wave, since they prioritize minions over structures.

However, if you place the portal behind the tower (golems brush if your enemy is red side or drop it over the wall river->tri if your enemy is blue side) you actually get more tower dps. The voidlings can hold up the enemy minion wave solo and even though they can't kill the waves, they allow your minions to focus down the tower. This, in my experience, will kill a tower faster then just placing the portal in front of the tower. An added bonus of the golems-brush is that the portal can attack both top towers from that position.

This is of course assuming that you are just leaving your portal and making plays elsewhere. You can also use it to augment a siege (provided you have waveclear, see the minion priority problem) and get some decent tower dps out of it.

Intersting. You mean behind the tier 1 tower right? In the brush next to blue buff and krugs I'm assuming?

I played a few games tonight with the Warmogs into Zz'rot combo on Volibear. It's worked out pretty well. I noticed turrets prioritize Zz'rot so you can place it down if you want something to tank a turret really fast. It puts a ridiculous amount of pressure on the map that someone is forced to deal with. One thing I don't really like is how I feel like I'm hamstringed into not building an offensive item. Building Warmog/Zz'rot just doesn't make you feel tanky and additionally you don't have any damage. I feel like it's a never ending cycle of building more and more tanky with 0 offensive items. which is a negative.

Other than that, it's pretty cool.
niukasu1990
Profile Joined July 2012
1007 Posts
January 29 2015 08:59 GMT
#223
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Faker stream in Chinese website confirmed
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
January 29 2015 09:57 GMT
#224
No DFG makes LeBlanc even weaker sad day.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 29 2015 10:27 GMT
#225
Sooooo now that executioners blade is gone, what exactly are you supposed to do against opressive healing like Aatrox and Mundo? Best case scenario you got someone with an ignite up and maybe an ap carry that hits the right target with morellos, when you're stuck in a full ad comp with no ignite, that's just over isn't it?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 29 2015 10:30 GMT
#226
On January 29 2015 19:27 Osmoses wrote:
Sooooo now that executioners blade is gone, what exactly are you supposed to do against opressive healing like Aatrox and Mundo? Best case scenario you got someone with an ignite up and maybe an ap carry that hits the right target with morellos, when you're stuck in a full ad comp with no ignite, that's just over isn't it?

Play Riot's Chosen Champions when it comes to itemization, aka AP champs with mana.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 29 2015 10:35 GMT
#227
On January 29 2015 19:27 Osmoses wrote:
Sooooo now that executioners blade is gone, what exactly are you supposed to do against opressive healing like Aatrox and Mundo? Best case scenario you got someone with an ignite up and maybe an ap carry that hits the right target with morellos, when you're stuck in a full ad comp with no ignite, that's just over isn't it?


Don't run full AD comps.
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-29 10:56:48
January 29 2015 10:56 GMT
#228
I hope you guys aren't getting annoyed with this yet, but the 3rd Scipaeus Jungling Challenge has finished! This time we tested Lee Sin. For those somewhat interested, but not interested enough to check out the thread, here's my own take at the run, time 3:31:
+ Show Spoiler +

Most alarmingly however, the Hall of Fame award went to Slayer91 again, who was only 1 second slower than me. If you want to beat him (and my goodness do I want you to), please participate in our next Olaf challenge here: http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-strategy/475905-the-scipaeus-jungling-challenge
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
January 29 2015 11:05 GMT
#229
On January 29 2015 18:57 CakeSauc3 wrote:
No DFG makes LeBlanc even weaker sad day.


yeah but faker and coco weren't even building it and doing well in ogn
Itchy7x
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands36 Posts
January 29 2015 11:28 GMT
#230
On January 29 2015 18:57 CakeSauc3 wrote:
No DFG makes LeBlanc even weaker sad day.

LeBlanc never needed DFG to be good, Morello -> Dcap -> Void gave her enough damage. DFG was just a snowball item.
ayy lmao
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 29 2015 11:37 GMT
#231
On January 29 2015 19:35 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 19:27 Osmoses wrote:
Sooooo now that executioners blade is gone, what exactly are you supposed to do against opressive healing like Aatrox and Mundo? Best case scenario you got someone with an ignite up and maybe an ap carry that hits the right target with morellos, when you're stuck in a full ad comp with no ignite, that's just over isn't it?


Don't run full AD comps.

Soloq, its not up to me
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
January 29 2015 12:03 GMT
#232
On January 29 2015 16:24 niukasu1990 wrote:
According to the source, not only streaming, but also a competition like Asian Championship or Battle of Pacific will be held at least include CN and KR teams.
It is also possible to include western teams.

That's very interesting considering this interview with an L.ACE chairman that I mentioned 100000 times already:

Q: Currently, the Chinese scene struggles to be on par with the Korean scene for League of Legends. What are some of the measures or preparations that L.ACE has planned to keep up?

Mr Lee: You should definitely ask the different teams about their opinions on this. For us, we are under obligations under Riot Games, so we are unable to organise direct competitions with Korea as a form of exchange.

http://www.paravine.com/2014/05/l-ace-chairman-styzs-lift-competitive-ban-highly-possible-mastermind-apprehended/

Would be awesome if that happened, I wonder what changed.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 29 2015 12:13 GMT
#233
On January 29 2015 19:56 Scip wrote:
I hope you guys aren't getting annoyed with this yet, but the 3rd Scipaeus Jungling Challenge has finished! This time we tested Lee Sin. For those somewhat interested, but not interested enough to check out the thread, here's my own take at the run, time 3:31:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AKBDUZdc5Q

Most alarmingly however, the Hall of Fame award went to Slayer91 again, who was only 1 second slower than me. If you want to beat him (and my goodness do I want you to), please participate in our next Olaf challenge here: http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-strategy/475905-the-scipaeus-jungling-challenge

Didn't know you can full clear with Lee in almost the same time as Elise and even faster, what.
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-29 13:13:06
January 29 2015 13:12 GMT
#234
man i need to start kitting buffs seems like it makes huge difference but im too lazy
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 29 2015 13:15 GMT
#235
In the Lee Sin clear I posted I saved about 80 or 90 hp just from kiting the blue buff. It really does make a big difference.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 29 2015 13:32 GMT
#236
Mundo can't kite camps because then he loses W damage (330-units diameter on a non-Yordle model welp). D:
I still managed to make it work without runes and a small leash, but I had to back after gromp -> wolves -> small raptors.
I'm pretty sure Q at level 1 when doing the gromp works best.

Btw Scip don't some champions (like Nocturne or Hecarim, I remember you dying if you didn't kite the 2nd buff and had to do it a lot) suffer from the "soft resets before a hard one : 10 -> 5" nerf in 5.1?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 29 2015 13:35 GMT
#237
Yes, they do. Nobody suffered more than Evelynn actually.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 29 2015 14:26 GMT
#238
On January 29 2015 19:30 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 19:27 Osmoses wrote:
Sooooo now that executioners blade is gone, what exactly are you supposed to do against opressive healing like Aatrox and Mundo? Best case scenario you got someone with an ignite up and maybe an ap carry that hits the right target with morellos, when you're stuck in a full ad comp with no ignite, that's just over isn't it?

Play Riot's Chosen Champions when it comes to itemization, aka AP champs with mana.


LOL.

You mean manaless champions with better utility and damage than ones with mana. Right?
Freeeeeeedom
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-29 14:29:18
January 29 2015 14:28 GMT
#239
On January 29 2015 23:26 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 19:30 Gahlo wrote:
On January 29 2015 19:27 Osmoses wrote:
Sooooo now that executioners blade is gone, what exactly are you supposed to do against opressive healing like Aatrox and Mundo? Best case scenario you got someone with an ignite up and maybe an ap carry that hits the right target with morellos, when you're stuck in a full ad comp with no ignite, that's just over isn't it?

Play Riot's Chosen Champions when it comes to itemization, aka AP champs with mana.


LOL.

You mean manaless champions with better utility and damage than ones with mana. Right?


There are only Gnar, Rumble and Zed. <:
I'm not touching on some bloody fuckers like Riven because fuck Riven.

But seriously, Aatrox is dead meat unless you feed him randomly and even then, he goes full damage and gets oneshotted after reborn.

And Mundo heals once per minute, there is big window to kill him or just burst him while he uses ult, it hits him harder sometimes, than other team's damage.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 29 2015 14:30 GMT
#240
Oh I dunno, I was in a game yesterday where aatrox got ahead a bit after laning and my team just couldn't kill him faster than he regenned during ulti. Then he got a GA, and by the time you get his GA and then his passive the fight is long over and aatrox just gets to clean up.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
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