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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 23 2014 05:27 GMT
#861
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 23 2014 05:28 GMT
#862
What you're all saying is that Liquid's SC2 team is clearly the best Liquid team.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 23 2014 05:29 GMT
#863
On December 23 2014 14:19 wei2coolman wrote:
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On December 23 2014 14:15 Sufficiency wrote:
Is Vi just straight up OP or is her damage bugged. I swear to god I one-shot a Tristana 100-0 using a single rotation of RQE....

Her passive is pretty insane, but I'm surprised you didn't just get ulted by trist, and go full Alaric QQ mode about Vi's ulti being bugged.


I zephyer'd her so she ulted us away and he ulted to cancel the knockback (yea, that works)
Carrilord has arrived.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 23 2014 05:31 GMT
#864
On December 23 2014 14:20 FinestHour wrote:
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On December 23 2014 13:04 TheYango wrote:
I mean, I think it's good enough for any other team, but it's Liquid we're talking about here.

Then again, Wayto was good enough for TL DotA, so who the fuck knows.


dam dude shots fired

?

It's not a shot at him as a person, just that he definitely had a questionable reputation in the past.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 23 2014 05:31 GMT
#865
On December 23 2014 14:27 Fusilero wrote:
What items did you have, with even a bit of damage I've seen vi explode many tristanas


Warrior TF Hexdrinker.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 23 2014 05:32 GMT
#866
Yeah that's easily enough to annihilate any ADC with RQE
Glorious SEA doto
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 23 2014 05:34 GMT
#867
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 23 2014 05:34 GMT
#868
On December 23 2014 08:04 killerdog wrote:
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On December 23 2014 07:28 RouaF wrote:
wei2 has more posts than you killerdog, 10 times more, so he must be right

fuck, i concede the point



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On December 23 2014 06:17 cLutZ wrote:
On December 23 2014 05:26 krndandaman wrote:
On December 23 2014 04:52 Slusher wrote:
On December 23 2014 04:02 krndandaman wrote:
are we seriously discussing whether girls are genetically better or worse at games in this thread?

friends, pls


you mistake not letting someone off the hook for a ridiculous statement w/o a source for having any inkling that he might be right.


so if someone comes here and claims the sky is red, do we all have some moral obligation to dispute that fact or something? if its dumb just ignore it. thats the best way to let it get swept under and avoid derailing any discussion that actually has to do with league of legends

On December 23 2014 05:10 cLutZ wrote:
On December 23 2014 04:02 krndandaman wrote:
are we seriously discussing whether girls are genetically better or worse at games in this thread?

friends, pls


Well, whenever anyone wants to talk about balance and game design issues everyone shouts them down just as much.

What exactly would you have us discuss? The merit's of changing raptors from red to orange? Amumu vs. Sejuani part XXXVIII?


dunno exactly what you're getting at. I feel like you're saying that there's nothing worth discussing and even if there is, people here don't give a shit. if thats what you're saying, thats a different issue altogether and I don't know how to respond to that.

More on the second point, but it's more of just a via in what people generally decide to respond to. You get 30 pages on Ww support. Meanwhile, a few people here were generally ignored over 8ish months talking about how Renekton was a problem for the pro scene because of his safe, endless, early aggression; until Riot make the famous "Renekton bar" statement. Then lo and behold, Renekton was fixed, mostly, by making his earlygame weaker, and weakening early top snowballiness.

Or more recently the Janna guy came in and basically wanted to tell everyone the future, and made some quality posts about it, but the was like 1 page.


I think it's just a case of you can't really have an extended discussion if everyone agrees on it. Like I could come in and say "janna is a good support", and someone else goes "yeah," everyones views have been expressed, and unless someone has some specific desire to discuss some specific facet of janna, the topic is over. Same with Renekton. Everyone agreed that renekton was strong and prevented certain top lane picks, so there wasn't much to talk about outside of "maybe riot will rework renekton." Then riot makes an official statement on their balance policy, and suddenly we have an issue where people disagree on whether their style of balancing (nerfing the offending champion) is correct or not, whether champion power curves should be level etc.

Whereas if someone comes in and immediately makes a post people have strong, differing opinions on, eg "ww support is good," "Gender based physical traits are a non negligible factor in there being few female progamers" or "the sky is red" then you have discourse. Someone else posts going "You're wrong because X" they go "i'm right because Y" and you have discussion. Sure, sometimes discussion goes on for too long, or turns into just arguing for the sake of it, with no actual points being made, but at the heart of it, discussion is two people disagreeing, and exchanging counterpoints until one of them convinces the other, or they agree to disagree.

I mean we could turn into reddit, where if we agree with a post we just quote it and get pages of "i agree" or "this" or "great post bro," but I don't think anyone really wants that~

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Also my accounts older, does that count for nothing?!?!?!? :p

I'll disagree mostly because more than half the time there is a "riot supporter".
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 23 2014 05:37 GMT
#869
On December 23 2014 14:34 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 14:31 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 23 2014 14:27 Fusilero wrote:
What items did you have, with even a bit of damage I've seen vi explode many tristanas


Warrior TF Hexdrinker.


in that situation anything but a 100-0 would surprise me

also a question for the mods: who actually knows whats happening if TL is in fact trying to acquire a LoL team? are most of you in the dark or do you guys know whats going on?


So... working as intended?

Sorry I never played this champion before I wasn't too sure what to expect.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 23 2014 05:37 GMT
#870
On December 23 2014 14:31 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 14:27 Fusilero wrote:
What items did you have, with even a bit of damage I've seen vi explode many tristanas


Warrior TF Hexdrinker.

that'd explode a tristana regardless of ult. vi's dmg out put is pretty insane with some damage items, the problem is being able to build like that without getting cc'd or bursted to death.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 23 2014 05:45 GMT
#871
eh

full charge Q vs. tap Q is like double the damage, if you can't charge your Q you prob need ult
Carrilord has arrived.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 23 2014 05:48 GMT
#872
... Because Vi's design is best suited for a midlaner, but Riot mis classified her as a jungle from the start and kept re&balancing her with that in mind.
Freeeeeeedom
canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
December 23 2014 05:58 GMT
#873
So I had a look at Deezer's (1goal1dream) lolking page. http://lkstatic.zamimg.com/summoner/na/37156788

It's obviously not his active account, but there was some interesting information. He has played 1v1 matches against both Dyrus and Bjergsen. He was very good at the game when people last saw him play.

Perhaps Gosu is Deezer. Deezer is from Montreal and Hi Im Gosu is from Montreal.
I'm almost certainly wrong, but it would be funny.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 23 2014 06:17 GMT
#874
Doesn't Deezer still play under the name Deezer? I had him in my game a few days ago.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 23 2014 07:01 GMT
#875
I've seen what Iamgosu looks like, and I can guarantee he's not Deezer LOL
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
December 23 2014 07:02 GMT
#876
On December 23 2014 14:48 cLutZ wrote:
... Because Vi's design is best suited for a midlaner, but Riot mis classified her as a jungle from the start and kept re&balancing her with that in mind.


I would disagree, Vi is pretty much exactly designed for the jungle.

In fact just about the only thing melee champions who succeed mid consistantly have is consistant ranged options, which vi has none.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 23 2014 07:16 GMT
#877
On December 23 2014 16:02 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 14:48 cLutZ wrote:
... Because Vi's design is best suited for a midlaner, but Riot mis classified her as a jungle from the start and kept re&balancing her with that in mind.


I would disagree, Vi is pretty much exactly designed for the jungle.

In fact just about the only thing melee champions who succeed mid consistantly have is consistant ranged options, which vi has none.

I just say that because I think that she works best as a high farm champion, plus she doesn't seem good in the longer lane. Basically I always thought of her as a better designed (because I prefer mana in design) riven or yasuo.
Freeeeeeedom
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 23 2014 07:19 GMT
#878
Checking the champion spotlight it seems that they intended her to become a top laner but in spite of shushei's best attempts to make her a mid she ended up jungling and we end up with her today
Glorious SEA doto
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-23 07:33:22
December 23 2014 07:27 GMT
#879
On December 23 2014 16:16 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 16:02 sob3k wrote:
On December 23 2014 14:48 cLutZ wrote:
... Because Vi's design is best suited for a midlaner, but Riot mis classified her as a jungle from the start and kept re&balancing her with that in mind.


I would disagree, Vi is pretty much exactly designed for the jungle.

In fact just about the only thing melee champions who succeed mid consistantly have is consistant ranged options, which vi has none.

I just say that because I think that she works best as a high farm champion, plus she doesn't seem good in the longer lane. Basically I always thought of her as a better designed (because I prefer mana in design) riven or yasuo.


I play her like full tank and still feel like I do great damage, that %health is just powerful.

Her wind up time makes her not great as a high farm assassin, aside from ult she is too telegraphed/slow and can be burst down/stunned out easily if she is squishy and diving.

I haven't played him in forever but I remember Noct being much better as a carry, he is way harder to outplay, and has spellshield, plus way longer ult. If you build him damage its pretty absurd, he is like master yi levels of damage.

His steroids are NUTS.

passive adds healing cleave 120%ad auto every 10s reduced by a second every auto
Spell shield gives 80%AS for 5 seconds
Q gives 55AD and 35%MS

so much free stats, and they just added that thing where he goes mega fast towards any feared target.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 23 2014 07:33 GMT
#880
Looks like Riot fired Fionn for a tweet exchange with Odee?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
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