EPTOn November 07 2014 01:10 justiceknight wrote:
whelp, time to quit the game and go do something I'm actually good at, like pooping.
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
whelp, time to quit the game and go do something I'm actually good at, like pooping. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 07 2014 04:00 lilwisper wrote: I don't even want to know how you would judge who poops better. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
TIL there was a higher, greater height to shit posting and fish puns - the metaphorical shit post that punilly enough is actually about shit. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On November 07 2014 04:51 PrinceXizor wrote: So. a ton of teams are struggling to keep players, both in korea and in LCS. maybe we should be looking at LCS's rule that treat the organizations with preference to the players. that somehow an organization can hold onto an LCS slot instead of the players. that riot plays the organization to bring in players as contractors, reducing their rights and making them treated like replacable parts. Just like real sports! (except without a player union) | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On November 07 2014 04:51 PrinceXizor wrote: So. a ton of teams are struggling to keep players, both in korea and in LCS. maybe we should be looking at LCS's rule that treat the organizations with preference to the players. that somehow an organization can hold onto an LCS slot instead of the players. that riot plays the organization to bring in players as contractors, reducing their rights and making them treated like replacable parts. You realize that's how all team sports work, right? Ask any football, American football, hockey, basketball, baseball, cricket... You name it. You propose that player's get the rights to the spot? How exactly would that work? I mean, great in theory, but it's kind impossible to make work. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On November 07 2014 04:59 iCanada wrote: You realize that's how all team sports work, right? Ask any football, American football, hockey, basketball, baseball, cricket... You name it. You propose that player's get the rights to the spot? How exactly would that work? I mean, great in theory, but it's kind impossible to make work. Player's unions with guaranteed contracts and CBA's and whatnot help smooth those issues out though. eSports has some growing pains it's still got to go through before it matches its 'professionalism' with its viewerbase and advertisement potential. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On November 07 2014 04:00 lilwisper wrote: I don't even want to know how you would judge who poops better. Exit velocity, volumn, shape, coloir, and texture. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On November 07 2014 04:58 onlywonderboy wrote: Just like real sports! (except without a player union) Real sports were incredibly shitty to their players without player unions. The fact that players can leave for greener pastures at all is a really good thing and allows avenues for players to not be exploited nearly as bad. Basically, if professional teams who own spots can't keep players they will have to pay players more until they can (absent collusion) | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On November 07 2014 04:53 Alzadar wrote: Surely that's exactly what an organisation like KeSPA exists to combat? Well. no KeSPA exists for the sponsors. But yes "real" sports are based on the franchise. but they also have players unions, and guaranteed minimum contracts, trades, more than 5 man teams. ect. also most franchise based sports have leagues with 30+ teams. not 8-10. so if player is mistreated by team A they have tons of options if they aren't just terrible players and can be traded away. many things that allow a healthy environment for players are explicitly prohibited by riot or avoided due to the way those contracts function. players get most of their income from non-team salary as well. Not to mention how individual player sponsorships/endorsements are discouraged by riot and its LCS sponsors getting to use your image for free. On November 07 2014 05:17 Goumindong wrote: Real sports were incredibly shitty to their players without player unions. The fact that players can leave for greener pastures at all is a really good thing and allows avenues for players to not be exploited nearly as bad. Basically, if professional teams who own spots can't keep players they will have to pay players more until they can (absent collusion) The only way i see the problem working itself out, is if one organization umbrella's its way into 3-4 slots by buying all disgruntled players and reorganizing them into other teams under a "different" owner.like alliance/EG. eventually somethign would have to be done about it. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On November 07 2014 05:27 PrinceXizor wrote: Well. no KeSPA exists for the sponsors. But yes "real" sports are based on the franchise. but they also have players unions, and guaranteed minimum contracts, trades, more than 5 man teams. ect. also most franchise based sports have leagues with 30+ teams. not 8-10. To be fair most professional sports leagues have been around for decades with some nearing the century mark. They had time to grow to those 30+ slots. I can see esports growing to that level in time. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Also Rengar's is garbage. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35117 Posts
On November 07 2014 06:09 lilwisper wrote: To be fair most professional sports leagues have been around for decades with some nearing the century mark. They had time to grow to those 30+ slots. I can see esports growing to that level in time. Monte seems to think big companies in the west will start investing in esports next year, given how much buzz S4WC caused. | ||
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