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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On November 10 2014 00:13 Maluk wrote: The day when people will understand that online =/= IRL will be a very good day. That's the problem though, You are ALWAYS representing the company if you are an employee. ESPECIALLY if your name has the company's parent name (RIOTjeffjew). Situations like this need to be looked into atleast a bit. | ||
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
On November 10 2014 00:13 Maluk wrote: The day when people will understand that online =/= IRL will be a very good day. The day when people will hold people to certain standards regardless or where they are will be a very good day. Being abusive and an asshole should be looked down upon, regardless of whether you're online or IRL and regardless whether you're surrounded by assholes or not. | ||
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Maluk
France987 Posts
On November 10 2014 00:32 Mikau wrote: The day when people will hold people to certain standards regardless or where they are will be a very good day. Being abusive and an asshole should be looked down upon, regardless of whether you're online or IRL and regardless whether you're surrounded by assholes or not. Is it the same if someone shoots at you in a video game and if he does so IRL ? | ||
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
On November 10 2014 00:58 Maluk wrote: Is it the same if someone shoots at you in a video game and if he does so IRL ? If you think that is even a remotely relevant comparison then I don't know what to tell you. Why stop at flaming and being an asshole? Is stealing from people online acceptable? | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On November 10 2014 00:58 Maluk wrote: Is it the same if someone shoots at you in a video game and if he does so IRL ? That's part of the game mechanics when you play, e.g., TF2. Being toxic is not part of the game. Anyway, that screenshot does not show anything, so no one knows what he actually said. I was joking about posting on reddit to stir up shitstorms. But if the alegations are true it's definitely not acceptable. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 10 2014 00:58 Maluk wrote: Is it the same if someone shoots at you in a video game and if he does so IRL ? Hey bro, ptsd from virtual tea bags are a thing. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On November 10 2014 00:25 Cixah wrote: That's the problem though, You are ALWAYS representing the company if you are an employee. ESPECIALLY if your name has the company's parent name (RIOTjeffjew). Situations like this need to be looked into atleast a bit. Exactly. I have it in my own work contract that anything involving my name online is 100% grounds for scrutiny and WILL result in investigation/warnings/dismissal immediately. Why? Because i have clients and have certain standards to uphold for them and my company and cannot simply roll around using my real name doing questionable shit when our clients could see it and it will reflect badly on all of us. Same shit with this. Riot has a very strong anti-flaming / toxic policy. Employees should NOT be allowed to act like that, they are expected to uphold the companies beliefs and set an example. Especially when using a RIOT branded name in their own game where all these rules are enforced. Thats the worst thing here, he (supposedly) did it in league of legends with a riot name. If that isn't shitting in your own bed then i don't know what is. It's not like he was found out to be the biggest raging dickbag in CSGO using 420mlgpr0XxX as a nickname, that could probably be understood, it was under his professional, public name lol. Either way, its not really THAT big a deal. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
The whole scenario is not why Jeff should be disciplined, it just shows why the entire punishment scheme is idiotic. | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
On November 09 2014 20:49 Celial wrote: Thing is, Jeff Jew is literally one of the original Rioters. He is the guy that invented the Yordle race and designed all yordles of the first 40. He also helped design most other original 40s. They won't do shit. They will ignore you and let your little outrage blow over. They just don't care. You're probably right about that. Someone that influential at a company isn't likely to face any serious consequences for ragequitting in their game even though they punish players for the same behavior. I wonder what he was thinking when he just left us 5v4 though, that made me a bit upset since I've always had better experiences with Riot employees. The vast majority go above and beyond to make the atmosphere positive. The "worst" experience prior was just Rioters being any other player and not saying anything which is also totally fine in my book. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On November 10 2014 02:57 NovaTheFeared wrote: You're probably right about that. Someone that influential at a company isn't likely to face any serious consequences for ragequitting in their game even though they punish players for the same behavior. I wonder what he was thinking when he just left us 5v4 though, that made me a bit upset since I've always had better experiences with Riot employees. The vast majority go above and beyond to make the atmosphere positive. The "worst" experience prior was just Rioters being any other player and not saying anything which is also totally fine in my book. If you really feel upset about it you can email support about it privately. | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
On November 10 2014 03:35 LaNague wrote: Dont forget that selfposts dont give karma for when you inevitably release the Kraken. so he should post it on riot's message boards first, and then link to that post on reddit, right? | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
On November 10 2014 03:36 Sufficiency wrote: If you really feel upset about it you can email support about it privately. I'm fine now, was a bit pissed right after though. Neo said he was talking to Jeff about it. I'm sure it will be appropriately handled. One of the good things about our little corner of the world is that we have a few inside tracks to Riot. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On November 09 2014 19:31 NovaTheFeared wrote: The immediate afk after the 2nd surrender vote was the bigger issue, though. I know bitching at his support and straight up going AFK is pretty unacceptable stuff, but I actually empathize with the guy a bit in this specific instance. Regardless of how toxic the players in a game are, I fucking hate it when people won't surrender a lost game on the straight up bullshit hope that you might turn the snowball around and come back. (And no, that doesn't mean it's acceptable to AFK or rage just because you're trapped in a game, it just makes it easier to understand the reaction) I wish the players in NA were more like the Korean Queue: "20 minutes and we're 10k gold behind? Fuck it, on to the next one!" But instead you get 2 people that insist on prolonging the torture because "We just have to defend and come back" while the other team refuses to end the game because they're having a blast fucking SLAUGHTERING the game. It really sucks getting trapped in lost games for that extra 10-20 minutes and it's no wonder some people on losing streaks get so negative. You only have to lose three games and you're likely to have had up to an hour of your time simply WASTED by people that refuse to accept when a game should be over. Related: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Vaporized
United States1471 Posts
is it worth getting upset about? no. also, without screengrabs of what he said you have nothing to post about in a public setting (ie reddit). what Nemireck posted is true too. when i surrender i dont necessarily think a comeback is impossible. i just dont want to play with the people on my team anymore, for whatever reason that may be. having those fucking imbeciles who are like 'never surrender' is obnoxious. its even more frustrating when the people who wont surrender are the ones who fed in the first place. | ||
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
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Vaporized
United States1471 Posts
i played with a riot'er a few weeks ago. this person was probably a woman (based on the name, i dont know who they were). the way this person was treated by the other people in the game was cringeworthy at best, downright nasty at worst. i would assume game after game is like that for him/her. im sure playing on a riot account is an exercise in patience for them all. | ||
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