• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 15:43
CET 21:43
KST 05:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
Username Change Request - Toxickej Kapr No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? [D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Sagi.gg Launcher Released Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings) BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4 [Mixed-Gender CK] Rush+4 vs Best+4 [BSL23] RO24 Group F - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Deus Ex 3!? Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11403 users

[Patch 4.16] Azir General Discussion - Page 29

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 100 Next
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
September 13 2014 12:44 GMT
#561
Lol delayed rage outburst from sponkz.

for people to ignore if they choose
+ Show Spoiler +
Have to agree though, i kept well away from that topic after typing out several replies to it, you simply don't flaunt, abuse and manipulate your looks to gain benefit (in this case money) without expecting criticism. Being a transsexual and not telling everyone is probably the worst part of it all for me, if you aren't readily telling people this you shouldn't be flaunting yourself in the first place. Reminds me of those ladyboy horror stories people tell.
Useless wet fish.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 13:09:27
September 13 2014 13:06 GMT
#562
Also for people to ignore if they choose

+ Show Spoiler +
All I can say is I saw 1-2 minutes of the stream, when it was one of the top 5 streams under LoL, and for the entirety of the time I was watching, she was sitting there webcam fullscreened (no hint of league anywhere,) topless (just sitting there in a bra, shirt was draped over the back of the chair) holding the bra as far down as she could with her thumb to expose as much cleavage as possible (like literally a cm from nipples showing) and holding that position, staring into the camera while a song was playing. Just sitting there for literally 2+ minutes. Nothing else.

I agree there are cases where there's a gamer who happens to be a girl, (and might even happen to be hot) but is just streaming gameplay, and bring their gender into it is disrespecting the streamer. I also agree this is definitely not one of those cases.

Also for what it's worth the stream is banned from twitch now.


Now I'm picking up my 10 foot pole with "female streamer discussion" written on it, and putting it firmly back into place :p
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
September 13 2014 13:23 GMT
#563
On September 13 2014 22:06 killerdog wrote:
Also for people to ignore if they choose

+ Show Spoiler +
All I can say is I saw 1-2 minutes of the stream, when it was one of the top 5 streams under LoL, and for the entirety of the time I was watching, she was sitting there webcam fullscreened (no hint of league anywhere,) topless (just sitting there in a bra, shirt was draped over the back of the chair) holding the bra as far down as she could with her thumb to expose as much cleavage as possible (like literally a cm from nipples showing) and holding that position, staring into the camera while a song was playing. Just sitting there for literally 2+ minutes. Nothing else.

I agree there are cases where there's a gamer who happens to be a girl, (and might even happen to be hot) but is just streaming gameplay, and bring their gender into it is disrespecting the streamer. I also agree this is definitely not one of those cases.

Also for what it's worth the stream is banned from twitch now.


Now I'm picking up my 10 foot pole with "female streamer discussion" written on it, and putting it firmly back into place :p


Banned for the right reasons. If she wants to make money that way go to the camming sites, plenty of money to be made there. I'm happy Twitch doesn't tolerate that kind of bullshit.

On the statements some people made, yes they're sexist, yes they're crass, but when she's whoring herself out for attention the way she was I honestly that type of speech is to be expected.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 13:32:15
September 13 2014 13:30 GMT
#564
"if you do __________, everyone is entitled to treat you like shit" is such a bullshit argument it hurts my brain to even think you're capable of clothing yourself in the morning. idiot.



editinhopesofnotgettingbanned:

i knew sona was OP, she's just so ridiculous if your team ascends, you especially. always full health, never not. ascended maokai with a sona following him around is just lulz.

User was temp banned for this post.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 13:45:18
September 13 2014 13:35 GMT
#565
My Q just went right through an enemy as Nautilus. Like, pierced his model, nothing happened.
FFS Riot.

(And of course the hitbox is still bugged as fuck behind you but that's nothing new. Having hit go through Nidalee's model and hit the wall behind her and drag me without cc-ing her was some mighty bullshit though.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
September 13 2014 13:37 GMT
#566
On September 13 2014 22:30 ItsFunToLose wrote:
"if you do __________, everyone is entitled to treat you like shit" is such a bullshit argument it hurts my brain to even think you're capable of clothing yourself in the morning. idiot.



editinhopesofnotgettingbanned:

i knew sona was OP, she's just so ridiculous if your team ascends, you especially. always full health, never not. ascended maokai with a sona following him around is just lulz.


If you cannot handle the pressure, stay the hell away. You don't go apeshit on TV in series like Big Brother, Paradise Hotel etc. and then expect to not be told shit about it (some might even get treated like shit). It's well deserved, you could've just stayed fucking anonymous for all we care.
I doubt anyone would suddenly start making a debate about trans-sexual gamers if it wasn't for the stream, which is a public media after all.
hi
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
September 13 2014 13:42 GMT
#567
Again, feel free to ignore

+ Show Spoiler +
Simply not about being female or transgender tbh. I have the utmost respect for Scarlett as a gamer, she's a bonafide badass at what she does and doesn't flaunt her sexuality or hide that she's transgender for benefit (or at all). Could you honestly say this ScY person treats herself with the same respect in the public eye?
Useless wet fish.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
September 13 2014 13:47 GMT
#568
Haven't Scy been known as an attention hungry troll since season 1 or am I mixing her up with someone else?
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 14:19:32
September 13 2014 14:01 GMT
#569
On September 13 2014 22:37 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 22:30 ItsFunToLose wrote:
"if you do __________, everyone is entitled to treat you like shit" is such a bullshit argument it hurts my brain to even think you're capable of clothing yourself in the morning. idiot.



editinhopesofnotgettingbanned:

i knew sona was OP, she's just so ridiculous if your team ascends, you especially. always full health, never not. ascended maokai with a sona following him around is just lulz.


If you cannot handle the pressure, stay the hell away. You don't go apeshit on TV in series like Big Brother, Paradise Hotel etc. and then expect to not be told shit about it (some might even get treated like shit). It's well deserved, you could've just stayed fucking anonymous for all we care.
I doubt anyone would suddenly start making a debate about trans-sexual gamers if it wasn't for the stream, which is a public media after all.


Here's what I think you don't understand Sponkz.

Everything you're saying is true. What she was doing wasn't right. I didn't like it either. And if you're doing something like that you are inviting criticism and to a certain degree are supposed to take it as it happens.

But just because all of that is true doesn't mean YOU personally have the invitation. Other people are going to do it. That's not because it's the right thing to do, it's because other people are also assholes, and it's just as not okay for them to do it as it is for her to be going around Twitch in a bra in the first place.

Further, "addressing abuse" is not what you did. You pretty much just made fun of how she's a transsexual and didn't link it to anything. If you want to make an argument take time and make an argument, don't just go "LOL SHE HAS A DICK"

Edit: Also to be fair, apparently after I made that big post she went around doing a bunch of crap while the server was down that was more or less indefensible and did get her banned, so oh well. The previous day or so when people were talking about it and I was watching it honestly didn't look all that bad. Apparently it got bad pretty quick
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
September 13 2014 14:15 GMT
#570
Here's what you don't understand Ketara.


I do have the fucking invitation to say WHATEVER I PLEASE. You go public, you are expected to take ALL the shit not just 20%, not 80% but you fucking take it all, like a man.

And yes, my comments were immature. I won't deny that. But you should also know that i have a tendency to lower the standard to express my deepest and honest opinion about matters, which make me seem like a giant asshole.
Being an asshole is not a bad thing at all, i like it, and showing asshole-like attitude can sometimes put things into perspective such as "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS WORLD I'M LIVING IN?"

And the dick argument as probably the most solid argument in this whole debate. He did it with the intention being that he could trick people into believing he was some sexy ass gurl with huge tits. Like if you are a sexy ass girl with huge tits and you love showing them on stream, then for the love of God do it. However, if you're a tranny, please enlighten people, because then at least they know they're being fooled.
hi
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 13 2014 14:18 GMT
#571
Chill pills anyone?
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
September 13 2014 14:24 GMT
#572
you guys are all toxic raported you all for verbal abuse inappropriate language and NEGATIVE ATTITUDE
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 14:26:40
September 13 2014 14:25 GMT
#573
"Somebody who is a transexual is obligated to tell people who are just looking at them that they are a transexual" is not a position that I think you want to endorse.

Like, just using the word "fooled" in there still seems pretty sexist, at least to me.


Nor do I think you want to endorse the "I can say whatever I want whenever I want and it's always okay" argument.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 13 2014 14:32 GMT
#574
On September 13 2014 23:24 riotjune wrote:
you guys are all toxic raported you all for verbal abuse inappropriate language and NEGATIVE ATTITUDE

No pls I don't want to get banned again! Riot bans so badly deter negative behavior!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
September 13 2014 14:34 GMT
#575
On September 13 2014 23:25 Ketara wrote:
"Somebody who is a transexual is obligated to tell people who are just looking at them that they are a transexual" is not a position that I think you want to endorse.

Like, just using the word "fooled" in there still seems pretty sexist, at least to me.


Nor do I think you want to endorse the "I can say whatever I want whenever I want and it's always okay" argument.



It's never okay to say what you want, that's the part of being an asshole.


Fooled is a good word, especially when you push 9k viewers.
hi
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
September 13 2014 14:34 GMT
#576
being an asshole is just being an asshole, nothing else.
why would you want to be like that, apart from being an asshole in the first place
TL+ Member
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 13 2014 14:37 GMT
#577
Okay, let me rephrase.

"Fooled" is a good word if you want to be like "This is being advertized as a League of Legends stream but it's really a camwhore stream!" Yes, that's a good statement.

"Fooled" is a bad word if you want to be like "This camwhore says she's a chick but she's really a dude!" when she's not showing anything but fake boobs.

If somebody wants to get a sex change, you don't attack them for it. There's all sorts of legitimate reasons for that, and nobody does it to get more Twitch viewers (which was an argument that got brought up in here by a ton of people). Make fun of the actual bad behavior, not the sex change.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 14:48:06
September 13 2014 14:42 GMT
#578
TIL Ketara was a childhood bully.


"You cannot call Susie ugly, that's wrong. Make fun of her fat legs instead"



edit: In my world this is the same as if i opened a stream with the title "Sponkz - Challenger Stream SMURFING" pretending to be some kind of challenger hero, when in reality i'm just a shitty diamond player. I'm lying on my stream, i'm lying to the public. Same thing can be applied to the tranny, solely because of the huge tit-zoom on webcam.
hi
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 13 2014 14:43 GMT
#579
Okay, that was pretty good, I laughed.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 13 2014 14:45 GMT
#580
On September 13 2014 23:42 Sponkz wrote:
TIL Ketara was a childhood bully.


"You cannot call Susie ugly, that's wrong. Make fun of her fat legs instead"



Pretty sure Ketara's point was "Criticize something that deserves criticism instead of something incidental." not "Here's two things to be a jerk about. Pick one."
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 100 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 17m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 494
Nathanias 13
EmSc Tv 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Dewaltoss 154
actioN 133
Aegong 27
Bale 23
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2000
gobbtv172
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu526
Other Games
tarik_tv5558
summit1g3519
Grubby2795
FrodaN1086
shahzam333
PiGStarcraft204
XaKoH 196
syndereN166
monkeys_forever154
Pyrionflax146
byalli143
ODPixel140
C9.Mang0138
KnowMe113
ArmadaUGS97
QueenE96
Fuzer 80
420jenkins71
NeuroSwarm61
Mew2King46
ViBE34
capcasts21
Railgan19
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL164
Other Games
BasetradeTV32
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 6
EmSc2Tv 6
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 51
• Hupsaiya 41
• Adnapsc2 32
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2014
• Jankos1863
• TFBlade633
Other Games
• imaqtpie886
• Shiphtur398
• WagamamaTV229
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 17m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 14h
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
IPSL
1d 20h
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
AI Arena Tournament
1d 22h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-04
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.