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Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
August 15 2014 03:56 GMT
#401
Any decent gnar guides? played him a few times, not impressed. Feels very weak until lategame when you have stupid levels of AD.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 15 2014 04:00 GMT
#402
On August 15 2014 12:42 killerdog wrote:
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On August 15 2014 12:06 iCanada wrote:
On August 15 2014 12:01 GTPGlitch wrote:
On August 15 2014 10:28 iCanada wrote:
I think Gnar can probably be a strong as hell jungler.

Those red buff ranged ganks. If you W-max he clears the jungle pretty damn fast even with the tank jangle item.


I tried it just once, but to me it felt like he lost too much HP in the initial clear and just felt very fragile overall... any sort of counterjungle could probably scare you off easy


o.o

You doing it wrong. With stutter-step micro and E he kites the shit out of jungle camps. Wraiths and Wight only camps you take any damage at, and god help any jungler that tries to fight Mega Gnar. Most junglers dont even do Wight, and Wraiths hit like wet noodles.

Also, start red, no Jungler can really fuck with you, except maybe like Red Start Lee, and probably Xin. But both of those dont see much play right now.


How do ganks work? Do you just have to go in with 90% rage or is just autoing with red enough on it's own?


Depends on who you ganking and how bad they over extended. But yeah, it really easy to go into a gank with like 98 rage and get transform with one auto. In general though, being able to gap close and Red buff slow is really damn good even without Mega-Gnar abilities. Even with flash, that alone kills champs with no gap closer / escape, but more mobile champs obviously require Meg-Gnar utility. Your Rage bar lasts literally forever though, like probably 30-45 seconds before it starts to decay. Ideal gank is run in, auto 1 time, get transform, use special E to slow, gap close and cut them off, then use Q to slow and save W for a flash / dash.

As for runes, I been using pretty standard Jungle ones. AS reds, 2x AS Quint, 1x MS quint, Armor Yellows, CDR Blues.

Feels strong to me right now, I want to test it more before I say anything more concrete though.
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
August 15 2014 04:06 GMT
#403
On August 15 2014 09:49 krndandaman wrote:
holy shit is anyone watching pobelter's stream right now? dude's a zed god.


no dude he is just a god on everything
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 15 2014 04:34 GMT
#404
On August 15 2014 12:56 Masq wrote:
Any decent gnar guides? played him a few times, not impressed. Feels very weak until lategame when you have stupid levels of AD.


His Mega-Gnar teamfight utility is huge though. The peel, the counter engage... its pretty insane imo.

Trouble is just figuring out how to control when you go mega-gnar.

I've had rather mixed results, but I think a lot of that is me derping with his kit more than anything. I been going the other way though, more in the pure tank area than the pure AD area.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
August 15 2014 05:08 GMT
#405
Personally I think you should just get one or two offensive items on Gnar before going full tank, it's just deciding which one to get. In theory you'll benefit the most from either pure AD or a mix of AD and AS, and life steal never hurts either. I want to try and go BT or BotRK first, and if the game allows me to, I'll get the other later on as a 5th or 6th item, and get tank items in-between.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
August 15 2014 05:11 GMT
#406
On August 15 2014 14:08 Kinie wrote:
Personally I think you should just get one or two offensive items on Gnar before going full tank, it's just deciding which one to get. In theory you'll benefit the most from either pure AD or a mix of AD and AS, and life steal never hurts either. I want to try and go BT or BotRK first, and if the game allows me to, I'll get the other later on as a 5th or 6th item, and get tank items in-between.

Triforce. Spammy abilities, high base AD, and makes use of every stat outside of mana.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
August 15 2014 05:13 GMT
#407
On August 15 2014 09:49 krndandaman wrote:
holy shit is anyone watching pobelter's stream right now? dude's a zed god.


IMO he's the best mid in NA alongside bjergsen. Wish CLG had him instead of 0 impact link.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 15 2014 05:26 GMT
#408
On August 15 2014 14:08 Kinie wrote:
Personally I think you should just get one or two offensive items on Gnar before going full tank, it's just deciding which one to get. In theory you'll benefit the most from either pure AD or a mix of AD and AS, and life steal never hurts either. I want to try and go BT or BotRK first, and if the game allows me to, I'll get the other later on as a 5th or 6th item, and get tank items in-between.


Why?

Lets be real, no other champion in the game can stun multiple champions on the enemy team 3+ times in a fight, and anyone who can come anywhere near close builds full tank almost every game.

I dont think he needs any offensive items. Although, I havn't really played him top at all, I just think he has the utility to just be alive and thats all he really needs unless you picked the ultimate low damage team or something.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 15 2014 06:19 GMT
#409
from what ive seen and someone else already said it earlier botrk into sunfire sv randuins has seemed to be the strongest
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TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
August 15 2014 06:23 GMT
#410
Just from theory crafting ( i have zero play as gnar only played against) Runaans would be something interesting to try. I'd assume his W (% hp thingy) would stack to all targets hit and the extra bolts would result in super fast transformation from hitting separate enemies. note i say "interesting" not so much 'good'

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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 15 2014 06:42 GMT
#411
it's interesting in that it stacks rage faster thus increasing the uptime of the form in which it doesn't work lol
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 06:53:04
August 15 2014 06:51 GMT
#412
On August 15 2014 15:23 TyrantPotato wrote:
Just from theory crafting ( i have zero play as gnar only played against) Runaans would be something interesting to try. I'd assume his W (% hp thingy) would stack to all targets hit and the extra bolts would result in super fast transformation from hitting separate enemies. note i say "interesting" not so much 'good'



from what i read Gnar builds rage at a set rate while in combat, and when hit, I don't think his attacks effect it
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 15 2014 07:07 GMT
#413
An update on Viktor: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay/W47to2On-the-truer-evolution
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 07:23:14
August 15 2014 07:22 GMT
#414
On August 15 2014 16:07 GolemMadness wrote:
An update on Viktor: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay/W47to2On-the-truer-evolution

Interesting, even with no hard details. I sort of prefer the adaptability approach, where you have to focus on just one skill. But it also sounds good on paper, and does fit with his theme.

I haven't seen that screenshot before, but it looks tasty. Definitely won't feel bad about losing out on building an offensive item if it ends up with those sort of AP numbers.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 15 2014 07:53 GMT
#415
On August 15 2014 16:07 GolemMadness wrote:
An update on Viktor: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay/W47to2On-the-truer-evolution

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Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
August 15 2014 08:33 GMT
#416
We played Gnar jungle a lot last night (either me or a friend). Full tank, no damage items q max, w second.
Damage felt nice, camp clear is fast. You feel a bit squissy in the beggining but only if they catch you off guard.
Mega Gnar in the jungle is a deceptive way of sustaining as you gain hp every other camp.
It is really fun to play, and really have to play it to see how he can do.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
August 15 2014 08:34 GMT
#417
On August 15 2014 08:37 cLutZ wrote:
Actually they are probably Independent Contractors, and most OGN teams are not even that. Isn't there a showmatch in a non-riot tournament that was recently changed to an ARAM at riot's "Request"?

All the major leagues are partnered with Riot and have to abide by some rules set by them. We learned that when there was some chinese drama, but I don't remember the exact source :/
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
August 15 2014 08:37 GMT
#418
The monster gnar can be really intimidating but from what I've experienced he doesn't have a large impact in winning games. Does gnar do most his damage in mini form?
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
August 15 2014 08:39 GMT
#419
Mega is lots of Utility and initiation, and a beast in 1v1. But the big damage comes from W in mini form.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 08:53:07
August 15 2014 08:51 GMT
#420
On August 15 2014 16:07 GolemMadness wrote:
An update on Viktor: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay/W47to2On-the-truer-evolution


as a weird ass coincidence I just decided to queue a blind normal with viktor for the first time in like a year...

go into load screen and look who I'll be laning vs...its another viktor.

one in a million chances

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I shat on him in lane and won of course
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
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