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On August 13 2014 06:25 Embir wrote:
Am I see a constant pattern here? I play LoL for about year and a half and I can only see constant cycle of nerfs. It looks like this to me:
1) Some heroes are strong, thus RIOT nerf them to allow new heroes to emerge
2) New heroes emerge (as planned) RIOT nerf them too, to allow next bunch of heroes to emerge
3) repeat ad nauseum all above
Seriously are Rioteers fucking idiots? Because it is becoming really frustrating to play this game. After some epic Kha'Zix nerfs i stopped buiyng skins. Now I slowly start to hating learning new champs - why should I invest time to learning new champ if he will be nerfed to the fucking ground?? (hi Rengo).
Am I the only one frustrated here?
its basically this for 2 years, and every once in a while they make a big rework of something where the overall power increases.
You can see the results of that in gnar, he has a bazillon things added to his skills, compare it to old champions like sion, who have very little.
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So what's with the corki thing in the patch notes are they buffing him or something?
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This patch is too boring.
No buffs until the very end always makes me sad
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On August 13 2014 06:25 Gahlo wrote:
It amuses me to no end that Riot prefers mids being better gankers than junglers.
Why? A policy of reducing the impact of the fog of war on outcomes is a good thing. Its why 6 pools should fail more often then not. Dying to a mid gank is like dying to the old 4-gate.
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SIX DAMAGE
LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
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On August 13 2014 06:34 IamPryda wrote:
So what's with the corki thing in the patch notes are they buffing him or something?
Corki historically has been a pretty contested pick at worlds, like last year the buff to Triforce right before worlds made him top tier.
I'd like to say it's just a joke but you never know with Riot lately..
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On August 13 2014 06:24 MooMooMugi wrote:
Maokai nerfs arent even that bad. W nerf is warranted granted it did a fuckton to full HP opponents from the base damage and Ult duration cap is insignificant considering the max time people have the ult on themselves is 10-15(20 MAX)
Wonder if it'll be enough to get him out of top lane. Not that I mind seeing maokai being played I just really didn't like the whole unkillable machine toplane.
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I don't personally like Corki that much right now but the Koreans seem to think he's near top tier at a minimum so I'm surprised he's being looked at for buffs if thats what it means
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On August 13 2014 06:07 Slusher wrote:
I'm kinda scared of the Ori nerf just because of the heros she keeps in check. All of them have potential to hard carry if they have a good early game.
been playing on my smurf through platinum and the only thing than could even give my op ignite/tp fizz slight trouble in lane was Ori. Still 13 wins 0 losses with him though!
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On August 13 2014 06:33 LaNague wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 06:25 Embir wrote:
Am I see a constant pattern here? I play LoL for about year and a half and I can only see constant cycle of nerfs. It looks like this to me:
1) Some heroes are strong, thus RIOT nerf them to allow new heroes to emerge
2) New heroes emerge (as planned) RIOT nerf them too, to allow next bunch of heroes to emerge
3) repeat ad nauseum all above
Seriously are Rioteers fucking idiots? Because it is becoming really frustrating to play this game. After some epic Kha'Zix nerfs i stopped buiyng skins. Now I slowly start to hating learning new champs - why should I invest time to learning new champ if he will be nerfed to the fucking ground?? (hi Rengo).
Am I the only one frustrated here? its basically this for 2 years, and every once in a while they make a big rework of something where the overall power increases. You can see the results of that in gnar, he has a bazillon things added to his skills, compare it to old champions like sion, who have very little.
So what you are saying just means RIOT is messing with the game only for the sake of metagame shifts. Rioteers don't try to balance anything, they only want to artificially force players to change champions picks.
What a fucking dissapointing thing from Riot.
I guess it is time to find another MOBA, with actually thinking team of developers.
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Something like that, 99% of the time riot are reactionary as fuck and don't seem to really account for how items shift the meta. I never cared, I blind pick jax with or without absurd base stats.
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On August 13 2014 06:34 IamPryda wrote:
So what's with the corki thing in the patch notes are they buffing him or something?
It's going to be either a Corki rework (which I don't know why, he's pretty decent as-is) or some slight buff/change to an item or him, that'll make him become a tier 1 ADC for Worlds... again.
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On August 13 2014 06:50 Kinie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 06:34 IamPryda wrote:
So what's with the corki thing in the patch notes are they buffing him or something? It's going to be either a Corki rework (which I don't know why, he's pretty decent as-is) or some slight buff/change to an item or him, that'll make him become a tier 1 ADC for Worlds... again.
I can see it now, overreaction on item changes. BT and tri buffed through the roof, all glory to lucian/corki.
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On August 13 2014 06:44 Embir wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 06:33 LaNague wrote:On August 13 2014 06:25 Embir wrote:
Am I see a constant pattern here? I play LoL for about year and a half and I can only see constant cycle of nerfs. It looks like this to me:
1) Some heroes are strong, thus RIOT nerf them to allow new heroes to emerge
2) New heroes emerge (as planned) RIOT nerf them too, to allow next bunch of heroes to emerge
3) repeat ad nauseum all above
Seriously are Rioteers fucking idiots? Because it is becoming really frustrating to play this game. After some epic Kha'Zix nerfs i stopped buiyng skins. Now I slowly start to hating learning new champs - why should I invest time to learning new champ if he will be nerfed to the fucking ground?? (hi Rengo).
Am I the only one frustrated here? its basically this for 2 years, and every once in a while they make a big rework of something where the overall power increases. You can see the results of that in gnar, he has a bazillon things added to his skills, compare it to old champions like sion, who have very little. So what you are saying just means RIOT is messing with the game only for the sake of metagame shifts. Rioteers don't try to balance anything, they only want to artificially force players to change champions picks. What a fucking dissapointing thing from Riot. I guess it is time to find another MOBA, with actually thinking team of developers.
Uh, damn, you're raging harder than my team last game at patch notes with minimal changes. Like, the biggest change is Orianna losing 6 AD and you're about to ragequit LoL forever over it?
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On August 13 2014 06:25 Embir wrote:
Am I see a constant pattern here? I play LoL for about year and a half and I can only see constant cycle of nerfs. It looks like this to me:
1) Some heroes are strong, thus RIOT nerf them to allow new heroes to emerge
2) New heroes emerge (as planned) RIOT nerf them too, to allow next bunch of heroes to emerge
3) repeat ad nauseum all above
Seriously are Rioteers fucking idiots? Because it is becoming really frustrating to play this game. After some epic Kha'Zix nerfs i stopped buiyng skins. Now I slowly start to hating learning new champs - why should I invest time to learning new champ if he will be nerfed to the fucking ground?? (hi Rengo).
Am I the only one frustrated here?
Like, the reason you should learn champs is so you can play them all, because that makes you good at the game period and then it doesn't matter if 10 champs out of 120+ get nerfed or buffed in a cycle, you can still play. I think these balance changes are fine. What in particular are you mad about?
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On August 13 2014 06:56 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 06:44 Embir wrote:On August 13 2014 06:33 LaNague wrote:On August 13 2014 06:25 Embir wrote:
Am I see a constant pattern here? I play LoL for about year and a half and I can only see constant cycle of nerfs. It looks like this to me:
1) Some heroes are strong, thus RIOT nerf them to allow new heroes to emerge
2) New heroes emerge (as planned) RIOT nerf them too, to allow next bunch of heroes to emerge
3) repeat ad nauseum all above
Seriously are Rioteers fucking idiots? Because it is becoming really frustrating to play this game. After some epic Kha'Zix nerfs i stopped buiyng skins. Now I slowly start to hating learning new champs - why should I invest time to learning new champ if he will be nerfed to the fucking ground?? (hi Rengo).
Am I the only one frustrated here? its basically this for 2 years, and every once in a while they make a big rework of something where the overall power increases. You can see the results of that in gnar, he has a bazillon things added to his skills, compare it to old champions like sion, who have very little. So what you are saying just means RIOT is messing with the game only for the sake of metagame shifts. Rioteers don't try to balance anything, they only want to artificially force players to change champions picks. What a fucking dissapointing thing from Riot. I guess it is time to find another MOBA, with actually thinking team of developers. Uh, damn, you're raging harder than my team last game at patch notes with minimal changes. Like, the biggest change is Orianna losing 6 AD and you're about to ragequit LoL forever over it?
Nooooooo not the AD being taken away from an AP champion ooooh nooooo
However will people play ADC Orianna now without that 6 additonal AD?
Hue hue
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People are freaking out that much about a small nerf to Orianna's base AD when she gets bonus 10/18/26/34/42/50 magic damage on her autos from her passive not to mention a 15% AP ratio? Pretty made it impossible to trade her with lane as she just shields herself and autos you while farming safely, the reason why Oriannas in competitive and soloQ have ridiculous cs numbers.
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Ori losing 6 AD is a pretty big nerf considering a lot of her early game power is tied up in auto attacks. It might not ruin her but its still pretty big
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On August 13 2014 06:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 06:25 Embir wrote:
Am I see a constant pattern here? I play LoL for about year and a half and I can only see constant cycle of nerfs. It looks like this to me:
1) Some heroes are strong, thus RIOT nerf them to allow new heroes to emerge
2) New heroes emerge (as planned) RIOT nerf them too, to allow next bunch of heroes to emerge
3) repeat ad nauseum all above
Seriously are Rioteers fucking idiots? Because it is becoming really frustrating to play this game. After some epic Kha'Zix nerfs i stopped buiyng skins. Now I slowly start to hating learning new champs - why should I invest time to learning new champ if he will be nerfed to the fucking ground?? (hi Rengo).
Am I the only one frustrated here? Like, the reason you should learn champs is so you can play them all, because that makes you good at the game period and then it doesn't matter if 10 champs out of 120+ get nerfed or buffed in a cycle, you can still play. I think these balance changes are fine. What in particular are you mad about?
No one can be good at 120+ champions. Period.
And what am I mad about? I am mad about constant nerfs, which do more harm then good - as I said in earlier post RIOT doesn't try to balance anything, only force metagame shifts, without looking at actual balance. This is problem. Oh, and sometimes fucks champions really bad this way (hi nerfed to the ground Kha'Zix from some patches ago).
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