EPT[Patch 4.13] Sona Update General Discussion - Page 21
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On August 02 2014 18:50 Ryuu314 wrote: wait...wouldn't that suggest team builder uses fresh MMR? Since if it was using established MMR there's no way you'd be matched with the jungler from T8 unless you're challenger or at least high diamond. I'm Silver btw Thats just Riots matchmaking at work. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On August 02 2014 18:31 Disengaged wrote: Nope. Because one time when I was making a team I got the jungler from T8, Porpoisepops, however you spell it, on my team and he just basically beat the other team by himself lol So, as far as I'm concerned theres no fresh mmr I got him the day after it came out, there is fresh mmr im sure lol. ive had games with people from every divison in it, and then ive had games of all similar people just dont play it as much i dont think so you can run into ye old 5man diamond fuck you in the ass team | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
Also, Rengar isn't good, in my opinion. The nerfs hit him way too hard and there's really no reason to play him over other strong junglers aside from "I like this champion!" Which, don't get me wrong, is cool, but I don't consider him top-tier in solo queue or arranged play. Wukong is still so under the radar... | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21666 Posts
On August 02 2014 23:21 nafta wrote: Rengar is the only top tier jungler(in pro play) that didnt get nerfed this patch.Just because of this he is definitely top tier now. except for the utter lack of successful Rengars | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On August 03 2014 00:06 Gorsameth wrote: except for the utter lack of successful Rengars Lucian also had <30% win rate when he entered the lcs scene.Just because people play him poorly or don't pick him in good situations doesn't make the champion bad. | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
On August 02 2014 22:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: The reason you'll never get a team of diamonds is because if diamonds are playing, they're probably in solo queue. If they're playing team builder it's likely because they're with a bunch of noobs who wanna play team builder. Basically my only gripe with the system is that it's not more popular =/. Also, Rengar isn't good, in my opinion. The nerfs hit him way too hard and there's really no reason to play him over other strong junglers aside from "I like this champion!" Which, don't get me wrong, is cool, but I don't consider him top-tier in solo queue or arranged play. Wukong is still so under the radar... I played with/against a few Wukongs the past few days, and I have to say he seemed really strong out of the jungle but not really that common. I've just been having a very easy time with stuff like Maokai/Amumu in Solo Q the past couple days, y'know, standard Season 2 stuff. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11507 Posts
On August 02 2014 20:55 Disengaged wrote: I'm Silver btw Thats just Riots matchmaking at work. I think people complain way too much about riots matchmaking, it is actually pretty good in comparison to some other things i have seen. For example, if you create a smurf, you will very quickly, as in in maybe 10 games, find yourself on smurf island with the other smurfs. This can be really annoying if you want to play with a friend who isn't into LoL yet, but also shows that the matchmaking is really good in actually matching you with people of your skilllevel quickly. If you play something like Smite for a while, where legitimate maxlevel accounts sometimes play in games with people with less than 10 games who are not smurfs, and all sorts of other weird behaviour leading to extremely uneven games occurs a lot, and you will very quickly find that "OMG i am silver and there was a guy who has gold in another queue in the same game as me" riot matchmaking is actually pretty good. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
And with all the jungle champ nerfs recently, not a ton of jungle champs are left that can deal a reasonable amount of DPS while still going tanky. The only ones that probably can are Vi, Maokai and possibly Skarner. Elise still can do % HP damage, Lee is still OK in early game for the damage, and Eve's stealth is why she is still relevant, but if you are going to be looking to go full tank, its gotta be one of the 3 I named. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On August 02 2014 22:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: The reason you'll never get a team of diamonds is because if diamonds are playing, they're probably in solo queue. If they're playing team builder it's likely because they're with a bunch of noobs who wanna play team builder. Basically my only gripe with the system is that it's not more popular =/. Also, Rengar isn't good, in my opinion. The nerfs hit him way too hard and there's really no reason to play him over other strong junglers aside from "I like this champion!" Which, don't get me wrong, is cool, but I don't consider him top-tier in solo queue or arranged play. Wukong is still so under the radar... I thought riot was ignoring Wukong? I think everyone and their mother knows he's a strong pick in 90% of situations | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Celial
2602 Posts
On August 03 2014 01:47 VayneAuthority wrote: well if they ever do tone down wukong hopefully it will just be that retarded passive he has. most people probably dont even know it exists because there is no way of knowing unless you have played wukong. Wukong passive is awesome. His real passive allows you to only build one defensive item and still not get blown up (long enough for full ult). The passive on Q means you can just stack AD all day long and never worry about LW... I <3 Wukong. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On August 02 2014 22:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: The reason you'll never get a team of diamonds is because if diamonds are playing, they're probably in solo queue. If they're playing team builder it's likely because they're with a bunch of noobs who wanna play team builder. Basically my only gripe with the system is that it's not more popular =/. Also, Rengar isn't good, in my opinion. The nerfs hit him way too hard and there's really no reason to play him over other strong junglers aside from "I like this champion!" Which, don't get me wrong, is cool, but I don't consider him top-tier in solo queue or arranged play. Wukong is still so under the radar... Agreed about Wukong. I think it's kinda funny how he went from top tier must pick jungle to never seeing any competitive play with just one set of reasonably minor nerfs. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Look at what they said about the rework: These changes are to give Maokai more of a 'core' identity as a defensive peeling support tank who can disrupt the baddies that jump on his squishy friends. Some of you might be asking: why so much change for the tree? Old Maokai might not be the strongest jungler on the scene but he's still very capable of shutting down entire lanes in the early to mid game while not contributing much to later teamfights. These updates let us balance around new Maokai kit without bringing back the Maokai pain train of Season 2 (such nonstop reliable tower dives, wow). Well, not only not a description of how Maokai is being played, but also not the role they wanted. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On August 03 2014 04:49 Ryuu314 wrote: Riot has a tendency to overbuff junglers or buff them in the wrong places so they end up fotm top laners. Of course, but I also like how he basically is a zone controlling, unkillable tree, and peeling has almost nothing to do with it. I don't know if that is because he doesn't do that, out because diving and engaging is so neutered that peel is an afterthought. | ||
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